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re: James Harden showing why the NBA is a complete farce of an organization....

Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by Drew Brews
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Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 8:54 pm to
It’s these short deals that cause this stuff. Baseball and Hockey players (even Mahomes) sign 12 year deals and lock themselves in. Teams can build around those guys and kids grow up with them. The NBA just doesn’t have that.

To be fair, the sport lends itself to it. As good as Trout is, he doesn’t have the leverage of an NBA star because he can’t single handedly change your fortunes like a Lebron or AD. It’s the only sport where you can go from dumpster fire to champions by adding 2 players. Gives them all the leverage.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87515 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:41 pm to
NBA decided to feature players over franchises in their marketing

they created grown man AAU teams in the process
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36832 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 4:45 am to
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Compare the selfish black player to the white team player.

But yeah. They’re the real racists.

You people. I swear.


It's pretty sad that's what you took from his statement.

quote:

lsutigers1992

Oh, nevermind, you're just projecting as usual.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3140 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:52 am to
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How about we have an NBA team of Guard, Magic Johnson, guard, isiah Thomas, Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Dennis Rodman ? Let’s throw in Akeem the dream as a back up ? Might add John Stockton and Karl Malone OTB.

Let’s win six or seven titles in a row.

Everybody gets a trophy.


and they only need to play the Washington Generals. It's a match made in heaven. No need for all those other teams anymore.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:02 am to
This is fans and media’s fault. They have no one to blame but themselves. Too many fans and media act like only titles matter and disregard the manner that they are won. No title = failure. And then the same people get mad when guys team up.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10173 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:03 am to
Boom you’re playing this so wrong.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:36 am to
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Someone wanting to decide where they work? What an a-hole! Let me know when your boss trades you for a bag of Fritos and a half empty Diet Dew and see if you still feel the same way.


lol.

If my boss had me on a two year contract (with a crap ton of guaranteed comp) and I stormed into his office demanding he facilitate a move to a competitor, how do you think that conversation would go?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 5:50 pm to
The difference is you have no leverage. He does.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12021 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:28 pm to
The NBA is unwatchable because a handful of elite players take their talents to super teams and win titles. Elsewhere, the other 23/24 other franchises are playing for a salary and just trying to make the playoffs.

I never saw MJ team up with Bird, Magic, worthy, and isiah but hey...that’s just me. Lebron has to do what he can to catch up to Michael.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:21 pm to
Yawn. Been said 1000 times on this board alone in the last 6 months.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2359 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:24 pm to
Mostly agree but feel like Fertitta is both an a-hole by nature and on the way to bankruptcy.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:43 am to
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The difference is you have no leverage. He does.


The difference is that he is under a voluntary contract that he signed. He made a commitment for a certain period of time to this team. I didn’t.

The other difference is that he’s an elite player who should be able to elevate a team, yet is whining to get sent elsewhere so he can win. I’m not.

So your comparison doesn’t work.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:36 pm to
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You had to use a player that is now retired as an example when I can name two in the past row years in the NBA who made demands to go to a specific team, three if you consider Paul George in the middle of the night

I would say it is far more prominent in the NBA than in any other league. I wouldn’t just stop that, it is a fact.


QFT

The nba is just full of them!
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:37 pm to
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lol.

If my boss had me on a two year contract (with a crap ton of guaranteed comp) and I stormed into his office demanding he facilitate a move to a competitor, how do you think that conversation would go?


Well if you were good enough the competitor would just buy you out of your contract and you’d move on to them
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Well if you were good enough the competitor would just buy you out of your contract and you’d move on to them


This isn’t the OT baw
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:56 pm to
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This isn’t the OT baw

We got some buy side MDs that post here
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79349 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:02 pm to
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He’s stuck it out with the Rockets longer than most superstars these days stay with their team.


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But he stuck it out in Houston and signed extensions. He gave Houston 8 years.


Dude had all the tools to make a run. Maybe just maybe he's not champion caliber.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:03 pm to
tell me what year he had anything close to championship worthy help
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:18 pm to
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If my boss had me on a two year contract (with a crap ton of guaranteed comp) and I stormed into his office demanding he facilitate a move to a competitor, how do you think that conversation would go?



That depends. What do you do?

Can he fire you today and replace you relatively quickly with someone of approximate skill?

If this was some player on a 2-way contract this wouldn't have even made the news.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111138 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:19 pm to
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The difference is you have no leverage. He does.
What's his leverage?

If they don't trade him, what can he do?
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