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re: JaMarcus Russell ESPN Documentary

Posted on 4/21/13 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Member since May 2008
36004 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 11:57 pm to
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Rinaldi doesn't know how to pronounce Mobile.


what did you expect?
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:16 am to
idk why...but when I watched the JR doc this song popped in my head. Even though the song has nothing to do with anything similar to JR.
The National - Think you can wait

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According to Matt Berninger, the band wrote the song after watching the film "Win Win" and becoming inspired by Tom McCarthy's themes of "very normal and good people trying to do their best and the struggle to be good." The result, "Think You Can Wait," is a gorgeous, brooding composition that plays over the film's credits. Hear the new National tune, which was produced by Boxer co-producer Peter Katis at Aaron Dessner's Brooklyn studio and features guest vocals by Sharon Van Etten.

Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:17 am to
idk why...but when I watched the JR doc this song popped in my head. Even though the song has nothing to do with anything similar to JR.
The National - Think you can wait

quote:

According to Matt Berninger, the band wrote the song after watching the film "Win Win" and becoming inspired by Tom McCarthy's themes of "very normal and good people trying to do their best and the struggle to be good." The result, "Think You Can Wait," is a gorgeous, brooding composition that plays over the film's credits. Hear the new National tune, which was produced by Boxer co-producer Peter Katis at Aaron Dessner's Brooklyn studio and features guest vocals by Sharon Van Etten.

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37577 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:34 am to
quote:

I'll root for him to make it back, but he also had a billion chances to make it in the NFL



the strange thing is he didn't get another real shot after the Raiders. A lot of that is obviously his fault for being way too immature when he was drafted.. but having Kiffin run around bad mouthing him to Cowherd and whoever else would listen "off the record" certainly didn't help.

I'll root for him because I don't think there's any harm in the guy and he's been unfairly maligned at least at times for a guy who was drafted by the worst organization in football and "coached" by another immature character in boy blunder.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22532 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:51 am to
Hope he makes it back
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74025 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:18 am to
god i hope he makes it back to the NFL
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9668 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 9:01 am to
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the strange thing is he didn't get another real shot after the Raiders.


Where is this coming from? He didn't get another shot because he was 320 pounds and couldn't play at that weight. Teams probably looked at him, which is a chance, but they passed on him after they didn't like what they saw.

I'm rooting for him to make it back, but he had plenty of chances. It isn't like teams are just going to pass on a great QB cause they don't like him. He just wasn't good enough then for various reasons to be an NFL QB.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:29 am to
Fantastic.

Maybe I'm a homer, but I still think he can make it.

Never in my life seen anybody that can wing the ball like JaMarcus could.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9668 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:46 am to
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Maybe I'm a homer, but I still think he can make it.


Not a homer at all, his talent level is there and was the reason he was the #1 overall pick. He is still young enough to make a comeback and I predict he will get a look by fall from teams.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117709 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 10:58 am to
I watched the documentary this morning. Was disturbed near the end when they said he needed to get down to 275. I think he needs to play closer to 250.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:01 am to
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I think he needs to play closer to 250


270 was just his goal to be at by May, but he hasn't played at 250 since his freshman year at LSU. 260-265 would be a good playing weight for him.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:04 am to
How much does he weigh now??
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84472 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:04 am to
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I think he needs to play closer to 250.



Are you serious? He is a HUGE man. He has lost 40 pounds, so he is at 275 already. I bet he looks so much better. He needs to keep grinding, though. This saying is true: there is a difference between being "in shape" and being "in football shape".
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25816 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:07 am to
Russell's career was so short I don't even remember him playing in the NFL... gone in a flash
Posted by The Gooch
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2009
1254 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Are you serious? He is a HUGE man. He has lost 40 pounds, so he is at 275 already.


Exactly...if Lebron James at 6'-8" 255 can play basketball, Russell at 6'-6" 270 will be just fine...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117709 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:04 pm to
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Are you serious? He is a HUGE man. He has lost 40 pounds, so he is at 275 already

And at 275 he was slow as molasses in January. NFL doesn't want QBs who resemble statues.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84472 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:05 pm to
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And at 275 he was slow as molasses in January. NFL doesn't want QBs who resemble statues.



The people in the know say the goal is 270. I will just defer to their judgment.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56419 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:05 pm to
He wasn't 250 at LSU.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10087 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:36 pm to
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And at 275 he was slow as molasses in January. NFL doesn't want QBs who resemble statues.


He was 315 in January. He's 275 now. Would bet he runs around a 4.9-5.0 at this point. Only ran a 4.83 at his original pro day.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
5060 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 12:45 pm to
He played at 265 his JR year. And i don't think he was training the way he is now.

270 is probably lighter then he ever was in the NFL and a good weight for him. As someone else said, he's a huge man.

He was 305 his last year for the Raiders.
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