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re: Is Trevor Lawrence the worst #1 pick since Jamarcus?
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:27 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:27 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:Stafford is an MVP candidate and playing for a super bowl contender as well
Just look at Sam Darnold. He looks completely different w/the Panthers. It's funny what being w/a competent team can do.
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:51 pm to lsupride87
I'll say this for Lawrence, I do believe he'll wind up being a solid Kirk Cousins level QB with a a few more Pro Bowls, but he will never win anything of note with the Jags unless they go all in on defense. They need to do what the Panthers did in 2020 and go all in on the best defensive players throughout the draft.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:00 pm to mtntiger
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When you play in the ACC and never have worry about pressure from the, umm, defense, you too can be all world.
Mahommes played in the Big XII, which is well known for zero defensive effort.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:16 pm to wildtigercat93
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Peyton Manning had 8 INTs in his first 3 games fwiw
That was a far less pass friendly NFL. You could really hit QBs and WR in the late 90s. It wasn't as common for QBs to start as rookies.
It's an unfair comparison. Trevor just doesn't have it and going to a franchise like Jacksonville with a amateur coach is a death sentence.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:09 pm to ragincajun03
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Mahommes played in the Big XII, which is well known for zero defensive effort.
He played with like the 4th worst program in his conference while there. He set the FBS record for most offense in a game.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:34 pm to Crimsonite94
He has all the talent in the world. I think his problem is he doesn’t have the desire to be great! There were questions about it before the draft. Look at Burrow, he loves football and wants to win every play. Lawrence seems to care more about his hair and God and stuff. He can still dominates if he puts in the work!
Posted on 9/27/21 at 5:39 am to mtntiger
The best QBs aren't even from the SEC 
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:19 am to TheeRealCarolina
People watch the damn games. Trevor can make all the throws and will be good to great before it is said and done. He problem now is decision making. He is trying to do to much to fast. Instead of taking the sure 8 to 10 yard passes he is making the long throw and in the nfl that is just not possible. The jags problem is defense and if Urban stays they will address it next draft.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:30 am to Crimsonite94
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7 INTs in 3 games
quote:Therefore, Lawrence will have a better career than Manning.
Peyton Manning had 8 INTs in his first 3 games fwiw
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:33 am to Crimsonite94
Definitely. Jax is a solid organization with a long history of winning and a proven NFL head coach.
He is ruining all that.
He is ruining all that.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:03 am to TheeRealCarolina
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They need to do what the Panthers did in 2020 and go all in on the best defensive players throughout the draft.
That's the template they should be following. Hammer defense in the offseason, get that side of the ball tied up then go for the offensive pieces.
I'm really impressed with what rhule is doing. I've always liked him for some reason
Posted on 9/27/21 at 7:05 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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He problem now is decision making. He is trying to do to much to fast. Instead of taking the sure 8 to 10 yard passes he is making the long throw
I agree with that.
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The jags problem is defense
The defense is just awful. They definitely will need to address that in the offseason. What is weird, they are not completely the worst defense through the 1st three games. KC, Seattle, and Washington have given up more total yards and yards per game than than the Jags.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:41 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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People watch the damn games. Trevor can make all the throws and will be good to great before it is said and done. He problem now is decision making. He is trying to do to much to fast. Instead of taking the sure 8 to 10 yard passes he is making the long throw and in the nfl that is just not possible. The jags problem is defense and if Urban stays they will address it next draft.
Bump I believe my post was spot on after his performance tonight against cincy. He has all the tools and didnt do anything to hurt his team tonight
Posted on 10/1/21 at 1:42 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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It's funny what being w/a competent team can do.
#1 overalls typically don't go to competent teams though. They go to the worst
Posted on 10/1/21 at 6:19 am to PaperTiger
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#1 overalls typically don't go to competent teams though. They go to the worst
True, but it’s still possible that team has a competent plan. Colts when they drafted Manning and Chargers when they drafted Eli then ended up Rivers are two that come to mind.
But that team has to be all in committed to do what it takes to be competitive and eventually build to a real contender. I’m not sure Jacksonville has that commitment. Wasn’t sure Cincy had it either, but they’ve surrounded Burrow with quite a few legit good weapons.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 7:11 am to ragincajun03
Needs to cut his fricking hair and move on from
High school.
Still runs around in circles thinking he’s going to hit someone wide open.
Meyer is going to get him killed with the OSU offense run plays.
Not going to end up well for this dude unless he’s traded, even then, Darnold showed signs and arm talent for the Jets, just made terrible decisions.
Lawrence still looks like a high school/college QB
High school.
Still runs around in circles thinking he’s going to hit someone wide open.
Meyer is going to get him killed with the OSU offense run plays.
Not going to end up well for this dude unless he’s traded, even then, Darnold showed signs and arm talent for the Jets, just made terrible decisions.
Lawrence still looks like a high school/college QB
Posted on 10/1/21 at 7:44 am to STLhog
quote:I thought the play calling was very Clemson-ish (not this years offense!). Trevor looked really comfortable out there last night.
Meyer is going to get him killed with the OSU offense run plays.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 7:59 am to Crimsonite94
Trevor Lawrence will have a great pro career. He is the best of the rookie QB. He checks all the boxes.
I also think Urban Meyer will turn the team around.
I also think Urban Meyer will turn the team around.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:08 am to JimNat
We won't know how good Trevor is until, in a few years, he goes to the Cowboys, Rams, or other decent team.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 8:41 am to JimNat
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I also think Urban Meyer will turn the team around.
Meyer isn't a pro coach.
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