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re: Is Tony Gwynn the greatest hitter of all-time?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:44 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:44 am to Prominentwon
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I knew Cobb was great, but this is the first time I've actually looked at his numbers.
I mean, he led the league in OPS+ twelve times. Cobb is on the short, short list of "greatest hitters"...Gwynn for as great as he was, isn't in the conversation.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:45 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Pete Rose
Can someone tell me wtf a pure hitter is
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:46 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Can someone tell me wtf a pure hitter is
Ted Williams could hit for average, he could hit a HR, he could hit the ball whatever the count, hit a curveball, slider, fastball, etc. That to me is the definition of a pure hitter. Not just a straight fastball slugger. It's about versatility. Ted Williams is the GOAT and Gwynn is up on that list. TG having 19 seasons batting over .300 in the majors makes him an elite batsman.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:48 am to Pilot Tiger
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gwynn is no ty cobb
Pretty sure that Gwynn and Ty Cobb are the only 2 players ever to have a career avg over .330 and 300 SBs.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:58 am to ULSU
quote:
Pretty sure that Gwynn and Ty Cobb are the only 2 players ever to have a career avg over .330 and 300 SBs.
You know how far past those two numbers Ty Cobb went? He lapped Gwynn
Ty Cobb hit .366 and stole 897 bases.
So Cobb is the only player to:
hit .340 and steal 400 bases
hit .350 and steal 500 bases
hit .360 and steal 600 bases
hit .360 and steal 700 bases
hit .360 and steal 800 bases
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:15 am to SPEEDY
First of all, Gwynn is not the greatest "hitter of all time".
By hitter, do you mean hit for average, or hit for power?
If you mean "hit for average", I'd go with:
1) Ted Williams
2) Ty Cobb
3) Rogers Hornsby
Gwynn would be maybe in the 10-15 range of best hitters for average.
If you mean overall hitting (including power), he's not in the Top 20
For this category, there's Babe Ruth, and then there's everyone else.
By hitter, do you mean hit for average, or hit for power?
If you mean "hit for average", I'd go with:
1) Ted Williams
2) Ty Cobb
3) Rogers Hornsby
Gwynn would be maybe in the 10-15 range of best hitters for average.
If you mean overall hitting (including power), he's not in the Top 20
For this category, there's Babe Ruth, and then there's everyone else.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:23 am to cubsfan5150
Rod Carew is also up there. No one ever talks about him.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:26 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Can someone tell me wtf a pure hitter is
a nicer way of saying someone that has a great batting average but no power, like tony gwynn.
greatest hitter of all time is either williams or bonds. you have guys like aaron, mays and ruth that had huge power numbers and were .300 hitters, and then you have guys like cobb, gwynn and rose who were slapping singles all over the place and batting .350 with 7 home runs a year. williams and bonds did a little of both.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:47 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Can someone tell me wtf a pure hitter is
in baseball, there are 5 tools. one of them is hitting for average, or for contact. This is where tony gwynn fits in.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:56 am to 632627
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greatest hitter of all time is either williams or bonds. you have guys like aaron, mays and ruth that had huge power numbers and were .300 hitters, and then you have guys like cobb, gwynn and rose who were slapping singles all over the place and batting .350 with 7 home runs a year. williams and bonds did a little of both.
Yeah, give me guys like Williams, Mays, or Musial over 100 Pete Rose's
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:58 am to cubsfan5150
Gwynn has one of the best hit tools of all-time.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:00 am to Paul Allen
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:01 am to Paul Allen
quote:
Rod Carew is also up there. No one ever talks about him.
Yep. And I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:06 am to tigerpimpbot
Mark Grace too
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:15 am to cubsfan5150
No.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:16 am to Lester Earl
Slump buster 
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:21 am to cubsfan5150
no one said lebron?
I am disappoint at the MSB
I am disappoint at the MSB
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:22 am to Lester Earl
glenn davis deserves to be up there. maybe not at the top, but up there.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:35 am to cubsfan5150
Cobb
Rose
Everyone else
Rose
Everyone else
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:39 am to bayouboy33
lol Pete Rose isn't even in the top 10 of greatest hitters of all time
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