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re: Is the NFL in cahoots with Vegas?

Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:13 pm to
Correct and when you factor in that the NFL is under no legal obligation to provide honest or fair competition it’s pretty much a guarantee. The class action spygate lawsuit revealed this yet some people would rather put their head in the sand and ignore it.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:26 pm to
Also notice that over the last 15 years or so all the rule additions and updates are completely interpretive. So they can call the same exact play opposite ways in different games, we can say they’re bad calls, we can question what’s behind it but there’s always a built in, interpretive out for the NFL and multi layers of protection for anything they want to do via the officials.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:29 pm to
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How many of you believe the game is influenced by betting $ in Vegas/betting sites?
Who sponsors the Superdome again?

I 100% believe that the sportsbooks have a line to call in to the replay booths.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 7:02 pm to
You guys need to realize that people are degenerate gamblers.

They NFL doesn't need to do shite.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:00 pm to
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I don’t gamble at all and it’s pretty obvious to see..
This is simple. As someone previously posted, there are hundreds of casinos and betting sites. They are not on the same page. What you see is confirmation bias, not reality. Plus, you're Peej.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 5:32 pm to
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and when you factor in that the NFL is under no legal obligation to provide honest or fair competition it’s pretty much a guarantee


Yes they are, otherwise, it’s called fraud if it’s fixed and they deny it. They don’t typically take bets on WWE, know why?

Also sports books routinely have losing weekends

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yet some people would rather put their head in the sand and ignore it.


What’s really funny is the same people saying it’s fixed for gambling were saying 10 years ago it was fixed for TV ratings

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The class action spygate lawsuit


There were Congressional hearings about steroids in baseball. Some powerful Senators wanted to investigate the BCS because their state school didn’t make the BSCCG. As noted here some Jets fan sued because the Patriots were “cheating”. Yet there has never been a single lawsuit, investigation by a legislative body or AG or ambitious prosecutor some where. It takes a special type of gullible to believe it’s “rigged” from the top down and not a single lawsuit or investigation has been advanced anywhere.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 5:33 pm to
Wrong on everything.

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Yet there has never been a single lawsuit



Mayer vs Bellicheck
• No Right to Game Integrity in Court: The court found that fans do not have a legal claim or right to sue over how fairly or strictly a sports league chooses to police its own rules and games.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Tiger503
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
S L O W day in sports BUMP

Some might find this entertaining:

Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:50 pm to
That dolphins would be sack vs Maye is insane

Love Jake, I miss his picks.
Posted by Tiger503
Member since Sep 2026
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:59 pm to
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That dolphins would be sack vs Maye is insane


Yep. As Jake points out in this video series, ALL the players are in on it.

The Media and NFL want you to believe it's just the refs and maybe a few players.

Remember, the actorletes are highly paid, sign NDA's, and get a pension for life to keep their mouths shut.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 3:12 pm to
I don't think the NFL is cahoots with Vegas. But are their times when individuals have been bought off to throw a game or two? Yes undoubtably.

We know it for a fact has happened in the NBA and MLB and recently. It makes little sense to think that it hasn't happened in the NFL too. It's just a matter of time.

The rapid normalization of gambling just means that the opportunities are much more prevalent.

I mean, when there is gambling, there is cheating. that has always been the case. Just because it's not organized from the top of the NFL doesn't it mean it doesn't happen.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:15 am to
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Is the NFL in cahoots with Vegas?


Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:38 am to
The house always wins? Do they need to be in cahoots?

Is Roger Goodell a toady of the big market teams? Absolutely.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:40 am
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 5:07 pm to
With the timing and nature of penalties called by these referees you would have to think it most certainly is.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 5:20 pm to
I think the NFL manipulates games to try and keep them close

A team goes up 2 TDs and the other team starts getting lucky with flags

Dont think there is a gambling angle though therre may be some refs that go rogue for gambling purposes but Id think thats more common in college where they make less
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:29 pm to
The NFL doesn’t collude with Vegas, Vegas colludes with the NFL. The NFL gives the scripted outcome to Vegas, all the NFL knows is who will win. Stats and player performance is all up for takes and so is final the score/OT. Thats on Vegas to decide the odds and what they predict the game to look like, but they always know what the moneyline will actually be
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:07 am to
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No. This is what simpletons think when they have a bad beat or dont understand statistical anomalies and regression to the mean nor the fallibility of refs, coaches and players.


This is why it’s ignorant for you to shoehorn everyone into one category

I think the NFL is in bed with Vegas and I don’t gamble



So now what?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:10 am to
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What’s really funny is the same people saying it’s fixed for gambling were saying 10 years ago it was fixed for TV ratings


Damn you got me




This is actually a pretty fair point

Doesn’t make it 100% correct though
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:19 am to
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Mayer vs Bellicheck
• No Right to Game Integrity in Court: The court found that fans do not have a legal claim or right to sue over how fairly or strictly a sports league chooses to police its own rules and games.


You're reading more into that ruling than is explicitly there. The determination was that a ticket just grants admission to the event and that ticket buyers have no standing to sue the league or involved players/coaches for cheating.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
76284 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:26 am to
That’s just a broad AI version of the ruling. The actual ruling is very specific, the NFL is allowed to police itself even in instances of game integrity and there is no legal recourse if something like fixing a game is exposed. This isn’t some new thing in American sports, it happened in the NBA, I don’t get this attachment to a childhood notion that cheating is just unfashionable.
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