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Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:04 am to SPEEDY
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Kareem could score better, but thats all he's got on Shaq.
Well, you are forgetting about rebounding, passing, blocks, and defense
You are severely underrating Kareem
If they played in the same era, which is what we're talking about, Shaq is better than Kareem at those things IMO.
Shaq made motherfrickers quit. He manhandled some GREAT centers during his career.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:05 am to sms151t
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As I mentioned earlier they changed the rules of the game due to Wilt. They never did this for Shaq.
The NBA legalized zone defense because of Shaq.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:06 am to Adam Banks
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It was a joke dumbass. The Magics first playoff series win in franchise history was the first round of that playoffs. The Rockets were the defending champions. They had experience poise and were the better team.
I'm the dumbass yet you're posting Shaq's stats from a series that his team lost 0 games to 4. Maybe if Shaq could've held dream under 33 pts/game they would've pulled off a W or 2.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:08 am to sms151t
What does a rule change have to do with anything? Charles Barkley had a rule change. Who cares? And it's speculated that zone defense was introduced because of Shaq.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:08 am to Boomshockalocka
If I had my choice I would take a healthy in his prime Olajuwon over any other center I've seen play.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:08 am to PhiTiger1764
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The NBA legalized zone defense because of Shaq.
I might be wrong, but didn't they change the rules about intentional fouls and/or flagrant fouls because of "Hack-A-Shaq"?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:10 am to RedHawk
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If I had my choice I would take a healthy in his prime Olajuwon over any other center I've seen play.
I agree with this.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:10 am to TheCaterpillar
Yes, if you hack-a-Shaq in the last 2 minutes then you get free throws and the ball back.
Although that's a rule change due to Shaq being so bad at free throws
And coaches trying to take advantage.
That's all rule changes are. When players or coaches take advantage of a "loophole", or something that makes the game boring, they change the rules.
Although that's a rule change due to Shaq being so bad at free throws
And coaches trying to take advantage. That's all rule changes are. When players or coaches take advantage of a "loophole", or something that makes the game boring, they change the rules.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:11 am to Boomshockalocka
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I'm the dumbass yet you're posting Shaq's stats from a series that his team lost 0 games to 4. Maybe if Shaq could've held dream under 33 pts/game they would've pulled off a W or 2.
Im posting Shaqs individual stats from a series in which they were individually matched up on when shaq was in his 3rd year in the league. Both centers played great. Shaq averaged more rebounds assists and blocks before his prime, while Hakeem was at the top of his career yet you want to say Hakeem was better overall.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:13 am to RedHawk
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If I had my choice I would take a healthy in his prime shaq over any other center I've seen play.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:14 am to Adam Banks
Those Rockets teams were so much better than the Magic it wasn't funny. Shaq played GREAT in that series against one of the best centers of all time in his prime.
frick all you doubters...KAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
frick all you doubters...KAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:14 am to LSUZombie
quote:Greg Oden says hi.
was blessed with a blend of size, power, and agility that we will never see again
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:14 am to Adam Banks
You are basing everything off of 4 games?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:22 am to TheCaterpillar
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The frick are you talking about? Kobe was nothing those first couple of titles. That was all Shaq. Period.
No. Kobe wasn't good in the first Finals, still had good playoff numbers, and then he was really good in the 2nd title.
quote:That's just insane.
Shel311 told me Chris Paul is a top-5 all time player
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:23 am to LSUZombie
If Shaq wouldn't have been a lazy bastard and would have worked on keeping himself in shape in the offseason he would be top 5 or better.
Instead, towards the end of his career he seemed to always use the first month or two of the regular season to get into game shape. This left him with a lot of nagging injuries that could have probably been prevented had he stayed in better shape. Also caused his decline to trend far more sharply than it should have/could have been.
Instead, towards the end of his career he seemed to always use the first month or two of the regular season to get into game shape. This left him with a lot of nagging injuries that could have probably been prevented had he stayed in better shape. Also caused his decline to trend far more sharply than it should have/could have been.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:24 am to boom roasted
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Greg Oden says hi.
You have to have knees to have agility
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:24 am to PrimeTime Money
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You are basing everything off of 4 games?
Im basing it off of Shaq going to 6 NBA finals winning 4 NBA championships 3x NBA finals MVP averaging more than Hakeems season high ppg in 5 seasons and in their respective primes Shaq averaged 29.7 pts 13.6 rebounds Hakeem 27.3 11.9
(Shaq 99-00 Hakeem 93-94 or 94-95 either way shaq dominates)
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:24 am to D011ahbi11
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That's just insane.
Yea.. An MVP or Title should be a prerequisite for the Top 5 all time conversation.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:27 am to PhiTiger1764
I don't want to take anything away from Dream, because I have incredible respect for his skill. I just think Shaq was so much more imposing and physically dominant.
Dream had the best footwork for a center ever though. It was poetry.
Dream had the best footwork for a center ever though. It was poetry.
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