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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?

Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:01 pm to
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Oklahoma lost to Kansas State by 28 in 2003 and was still in.
and the BCS got that wrong. Should have been USC.
Posted by L5UT1ger
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:19 pm to
Assuming normal scores in games, If Georgia wins a close one:
1-Ohio state
2-Clemson
3-Georgia
4-Oklahoma, if they win
5-LSU
6-Utah
7-Baylor, if they win.

If LSU loses big:
1-Ohio state
2-georgia
3-Clemson
4-Oklahoma, if they win
5-Utahi
6-baylor if they win
7-LSU

In my opinion, LSU has to win to get in unless Baylor and Utah win by a normal amount, and the LSU loss is close. OU is in if they win.

Names on jerseys matter to the committee.

This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?


I posted a thread about this yesterady, it would be extremely close and I have no idea why LSU fans are 100% convinced that they're alreayd in no matter what.

On the face of it you'd have a 1-loss non-champ in LSU competing with 2 1-loss P5 champs. The commitee has proven many times that they value conference champs big time so automatically that hurts LSU. The one thing I haven't seen discussed anywhere that I think will be huge is the rematch factor. We have a palyoff to avoid shite like rematches, and the only other instance of 2 conference teams makign the playoffs the 2 teams hadn't played each other yet. I dont' think the committee is going to see UGA and LSU play each other in December then turn around and put them both in the playoffs to play a month later. We already know waht would happen in a game between the 2 because we would have just seen it.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:25 pm to
LSU is in playoff.

Look at resumes...LSU ain’t getting left out with the 3 best wins (Bama, Florida, Auburn) of any playoff contender and also the best loss (Georgia) of any playoff contender.


LSU has punched its ticket to the playoff

LINK: LSU and Ohio St have locked up playoff spots

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A couple of College Football Playoff contenders fell to the wayside on Saturday, and in doing so, helped to clinch berths in the playoff for current No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 LSU. Even if the Buckeyes and Tigers wind up 12-1 with losses in their respective conference championship games, the strength of their schedules and dominance over the course of the season will place them ahead of even 12-1 conference champions from the Big 12 or Pac-12.


This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:29 pm to
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Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?


LSU would have to get whipped by 21+ to drop out, I think.

Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:31 pm to
That's a CBS opinion article.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:34 pm to
Do you disagree?

Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:37 pm to
I'm not going to claim I know what will happen with the committee.

I'd rather just win.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:38 pm to
I’m curious what the committee would’ve done if UGA was undefeated as well. Would they both be locks regardless of the outcome of the SEC game?
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:40 pm to
LSU beat Aggie by 43, Clemson beat them by 14
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:41 pm to
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I’m curious what the committee would’ve done if UGA was undefeated as well. Would they both be locks regardless of the outcome of the SEC game?


That's a fantastic question that nobody is asking. I think most people would PROBABLY agree that if UGA and LSU were both undefeated, that both would not automatically be playoff locks. So it's crazy to assume that if that were to be true, that LSU would automatically be a lock now.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:42 pm to
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I posted a thread about this yesterady, it would be extremely close and I have no idea why LSU fans are 100% convinced that they're alreayd in no matter what.


I don't think LSU is in no matter what.

I think LSU is in as long as it's a close competitive game. If UGA whips some arse in a 40ish - 10ish sort of game, then LSU is probably getting bumped assuming Oklahoma or Utah wins.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:43 pm to
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I’m curious what the committee would’ve done if UGA was undefeated as well. Would they both be locks regardless of the outcome of the SEC game?
Nah, because while they've been winning they have not looked like world beaters.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:43 pm to
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I’m curious what the committee would’ve done if UGA was undefeated as well. Would they both be locks regardless of the outcome of the SEC game?


Yes, they would both be near locks.

If UGA and LSU were both undefeated right now, then Ohio State, LSU, and UGA would all be damn near locks to make the playoffs.

Clemson would then have to choke for one of teams on the outside looking in to make it. Or one of the above three teams would have to get blown out and really look bad.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Names on jerseys matter to the committee.


Oh is LSU not one of the premier programs in the nation now?
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:47 pm to
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The one thing I haven't seen discussed anywhere that I think will be huge is the rematch factor. We have a palyoff to avoid shite like rematches, and the only other instance of 2 conference teams makign the playoffs the 2 teams hadn't played each other yet. I dont' think the committee is going to see UGA and LSU play each other in December then turn around and put them both in the playoffs to play a month later.


Especially since we are talking about the first game being on a neutral field. If the game were @ UGA and LSU lost in a close one, that would make a rematch less of a potential roadblock.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:49 pm to
I’m aware.

I contend it’s an opinion (LSU/OhioSt in even with loss) is shared by everyone with a brain.

LSU is in the playoff. All one has to do is look at resume relative to other potential playoff contenders. It’s a slam dunk. Comparing apples with Oranges on those resumes.

LSU ain’t falling out of playoff after losing to the #3 (final rankings) team in the country and that being LSU’s only loss of the season.

LSU would not only have the 3 best wins of anyone (vs Utah/Baylor/OU) but also the best loss.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Would they both be locks regardless of the outcome of the SEC game?

Nah


So...12-0 UGA loses to LSU in SECCG and is out of the playoffs. But 12-0 LSU loses to UGA in the SECCG and LSU is still in the playoffs. Got it.

Winning is winning no matter how it comes. LSU is winning by scoring 50 points. UGA is winning by only allowing 14 points. Opposite styles but they still count the same.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:52 pm to
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I'm not going to claim I know what will happen with the committee. I'd rather just win.


I absolutely agree with that! Lol

Just win baby!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:52 pm to
Dude the only reason why LSU and Ohio St are locks right now, is because of the year way they have looked. Georgia would not be a lock (eye test) just like Clemson isn't a lock right now (schedule).

Pointless to argue this anyway.
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