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WG_Dawg
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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I'm not going to claim I know what will happen with the committee.


that's why this is so intriguing, becuase there isn't an apporpraite example yet thus far.

I've been posting the last month and half about bama not being in playoffs based on the decisions the committee has made the last 5 yeras, and it was 100% obvious what they would do (which woudl be to leave bama out).

This situation is breaking the mold a bit htough as we haven't seen it yet. The closest comparison would be 2015 when 12-0 Iowa (4th) met 11-1 MSU in the Big10CCG and lost. MSU went to the playoffs, Iowa finished 5th. However, LSU is far more accomplsihed than iowa was. One thing we DO know for certian si the committee values conference champs extremely highly. Another thing we haven't seen is a rematch scenario, which again I personally think the committee will avoid at all costs.

But you're right, I don't think anyone knows what they're going to do.


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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Another thing we haven't seen is a rematch scenario, which again I personally think the committee will avoid at all costs.


In 2017, had Auburn beaten UGA in the SECCG, the committee would have 100% put Auburn and Alabama both in the playoffs.

That's a little different because it's not a CCG rematch, but it's still a rematch.


WG_Dawg
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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In 2017, had Auburn beaten UGA in the SECCG, the committee would have 100% put Auburn and Alabama both in the playoffs.



YOu are correct that's how it would have shaken out, but only because they had no other option with Ohio State having 2 losses.

This year you would have 2 other P5 champions both wiht the same record as LSU. There would be a much larger pool of applicants to draw from than in '17.


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L5UT1ger
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
One loss LSU getting in over Utah or Baylor is way more likely to happen than over Oklahoma.

I’m not comparing how i believe the committee will treat the names on front of OU and LSU. I’m comparing names of Baylor and Utah v. LSU and OU.

OU v LSU with one loss:

OU conference championship.
OU winning last few games
OU has name recognition.
OU has a few top 25 wins
OU beat Texas by a comparable amount.

It avoids controversy as far as inclusion.

It values conference championships

Sure, LSU would have better wind and losses, but when has that not mattered as much to the committee? When it’s a blue blood with the inferior resume. OU is a blue blood.

The resume will matter if it’s LSU v Baylor or Utah.

It’s how they work. They find the result they want then change the criteria to justify the result and tout that as what matters this week.
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L5UT1ger
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
You don’t even have to look very hard to see the committee choosing which factors matter more based on their desired outcome:

Why was Ohio state ahead of LSU last week?

Because the committee thought Ohio state was better and wanted them at 1. Therefore, eye test / complete team became more important than resume.

Why was Alabama at 5 with no quality wins versus Minnesota and Baylor? Because the committee wanted them ahead.

The resume only matters of it favors who they think is better.
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southdowns84
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Assuming normal scores in games, If Georgia wins a close one:
1-Ohio state
2-Clemson
3-Georgia
4-Oklahoma, if they win
5-LSU


I'd agree with this in a normal year, but I think matching up a Heisman Trophy winner against their former team is too compelling for the committee to pass up.


L5UT1ger
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
Maybe so. Burrow v OH-IO would be compelling. I hope you are right.


southdowns84
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Maybe so. Burrow v OH-IO would be compelling. I hope you are right.


I hope we just win, lol.

I wouldn't be surprised either way if UGA wins though. We've beaten the "conference champion" drum too loudly to be outraged if we don't win it.


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CelticDog
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?


Worry less.

I just have to point out that pretending all the other games go as expected is usually a mistake.


Ball bounces.
Slip.
Tip.
21 points.
Sleet wherever utah is playing.
I want baylor and the 6.5.






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SoulBrotha91
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?


2003 OU was in with a Big 12 CG loss by 28

2001 Nebraska was in with losing to Colorado by a lopsided score and losing the division

the precedent's been set

Notwithstanding that, we ain't losing to Georgia, we're too motivated


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uptowntiger84
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
I never saw 2.5. Lowest I saw was 3.5 -130.


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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
Bovada has LSU -7.5


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tzimme4
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
LSU won't face Ohio St unless it's the championship. That's who the committee wants in the final so theyll avoid that matchup no matter what the results are this weekend.


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MidnightVibe
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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I think OSU



Why would anyone not refer to Ohio State as tOSU?


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MidnightVibe
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Why isn’t the one with best players or best NFL prospects the best? You can’t truly define it.



Who would be favored on a neutral field tomorrow is the closest you can get.

And I'll take that any day over a "resume" ranking, which is even tougher to define, and way WAY more susceptible to cherry picking.


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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?


2003 OU was in with a Big 12 CG loss by 28

2001 Nebraska was in with losing to Colorado by a lopsided score and losing the division

the precedent's been set


Yeah and we saw what disasters those games were.

There is no precedent in CFB, just like the March Madness, the committee has shown they don't want anyone to come in cold and have boring low ratings games like OU and Nebraska respectively. It's been what have done for me lately.

LSU is in as long as they don't get embarrassed. But we've learned our lesson in letting in teams that get humiliated their final regular season game - NCAA tournament committee doesn't reward a team in basketball if they get blown out their last game.

Two, three scores and LSU is fine. But 35-6? That would look iffy and remind everyone of Chokelahoma and the mistake of putting them in the BCS Champ game.

Committee has shown they want teams that are hot.
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JPLSU1981
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
The playoff scenarios are fairly straightforward this year, and practically every national analyst and CFB expert in America has laid it out...

-OhioSt and LSU are in the playoff regardless what happens this Saturday.
-Clemson has to win vs Virginia to get in.
-Utah/OU/Baylor need an LSU win over UGA and then hope the committee chooses them over the other one of the 3 that are left standing. Obviously, if Oregon beats Utah, it’s Easy and #4 goes to the winner of Baylor-OU.
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NikolaiJakov
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
LSU is in unless they lose big and Burrow is out for the year.

At that point they're not one of the top 4 teams. As long as Burrow is healthy, they are.


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chalmetteowl
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
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OhioSt and LSU are in the playoff regardless what happens this Saturday.
-Clemson has to win vs Virginia to get in.
and that’s why Dabo is pissed


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ELVIS U
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re: Is LSU still in with a SECCG loss by more than one score?
I'd take LSU and give 2.5 points any day. Sucker bet


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