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re: Is Jon schuyer elite?

Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:06 pm to
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Obviously not elite
id say so, but the media narrative tries to suggest otherwise
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1046 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Duke was asking for it, though. They played with fire a lot in the last several games and got burned


Agree. I know Duke did beat Michigan in the regular season but I never thought their peak level was anywhere close to Michigan/Arizona.

The team was basically Cam Boozer. I thought their team last year was way way way better. That’s the team that should have won it all. This years team was gonna lose to IL, or MI/AZ if they didn’t lose today
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5140 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:10 pm to
Young team put into a tough spot.

Hurley definitely coached circles around him, though. He put on a clinic. They went into halftime and completely adjusted and were a whole new team. That's coaching on your feet. It's easy to prep for a team for a couple of days, but in the heat of the moment, the ability being able to pivot and adjust ... that's true coaching to me.

That said, I don't know if he's elite or not, but Schuyher is close...he's able to recruit and build very solid teams.

9/10 of the teams out there would love to have him I'd imagine.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80290 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:11 pm to
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Obviously not elite but he'll be fine

Well yeah. The job isn't totally idiot proof but the Nike infrastructure and basketball media hype machine will keep them supplied with top talent.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5140 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:14 pm to
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Well yeah. The job isn't totally idiot proof but the Nike infrastructure and basketball media hype machine will keep them supplied with top talent.


They lost in the Elite 8...I mean, tough way to lose, but they aren't Indiana, Kansas, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA ....

He's doing pretty well.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
2770 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:17 pm to
Daddy K’s chosen son.

Riding K’s coat tails is only going to take him so far, he’s going to have to stop choking eventually.

A retard could get to the sweet 16 and elite 8 with the talent he has.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17506 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:19 pm to
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Well yeah. The job isn't totally idiot proof but the Nike infrastructure and basketball media hype machine will keep them supplied with top talent.


I know he stepped into as good of a situation as there is but three straight EEs. He will be fine.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 7:20 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12588 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:29 pm to
That was a pathetic collapse. Poorly taught freshman
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32114 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:44 pm to
A player in junior high should know what to do in that situation.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13831 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Two years in a row a complete meltdown at the end is a tough look.


Love by the star freshman, died by them as well.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15087 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:03 pm to
I don’t know shite about coaching but he’ll win a title eventually over there if he has teams stacked like that.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30028 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:06 pm to
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You're not wrong but neither one of them was at a Mt. Rushmore program.


What are the Mt. Rushmore programs these days? Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky. UConn has done more in 26 years than anybody else, and programs like UCLA and Indiana need a revival. I think the Tourney is a crapshoot. Are we suggesting Boozer didn’t know what to do, or he did but choked? There’s a difference.

A coach that was highly successful at a blue blood but took time to get over the hump was Roy Williams, and he had to go from one to another to win it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70300 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:07 pm to
No, he lost the game tonight. Last year I don’t think it was mostly on him but you’re up 17 in the second half with the particular type of team he has, an elite coach would’ve ground UCONN down and won the game.
Posted by B2 Bomber
Member since Sep 2016
353 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Has anyone done less with more?


Ben Howland and Brian Kelly
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24178 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:20 pm to
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A retard could get to the sweet 16 and elite 8 with the talent he has.


Arizona hasn’t been to the final 4 since 2001. Let that sink in.

He’s been to the elite 8 2 years in a row. Duke was 27-3 this year. Not a lot of coaches have done that, alone.

Duke lost due to poor coaching today. I agree.

Sheyer was a HS all American. A college all American. As a player. I don’t quite see how anyone can say born on 3rd base. You can say that about Steven Pearl, as an Auburn guy I’ll accept that. He’s still a young guy. I’m sure him and Duke will be fine.

He’s in his 30s. We should probably pump the breaks.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24178 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:22 pm to
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A coach that was highly successful at a blue blood but took time to get over the hump was Roy Williams, and he had to go from one to another to win it.


Not to mention Roy was 55 before winning his first. Sheyer is currently 38. Damn good chance he wins one before he is 50.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22289 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:49 pm to
No not elite
Posted by Tubedog13
Member since May 2009
3660 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:05 pm to
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Has anyone done less with more?


Calipari by a mile
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6932 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:11 pm to
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how he recruits
Doesn’t this now mean, “how he pays players”?
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
8829 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:14 pm to
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Doesn’t this now mean, “how he pays players”?
it always meant that

But the point is he gets tons of talent every year so he’ll likely get some hardware someday even if he doesn’t evolve into an elite coach
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