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re: Is James Hardens biggest strength getting fouled?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:51 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:51 pm to buckeye_vol
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:52 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:So he averaged 1.5 more per game.....
I meant 10 fewer.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:17 pm to oleyeller
3 pointers, layups, and free throws. That's his game. That's the way Morey and D'Antoni like it. Actually, I think his flopping has gone down a lot. He's just very good at getting players to foul him.
Are you saying he isn't getting fouled and they are all flops?
Are you saying he isn't getting fouled and they are all flops?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:23 pm to Fall Creek Tiger
He flops a lot. No shame in admitting that. It is what it is.
He also draws a lot of legitimate contact. It's not a zero sum game, but there's no denying drawing contact/fouls is a big part of his game. His game is built on deception. It's smart.
But he does flop often. Hey, if the ref is going to blow the whistle, might as well cash in to help your team.
He also draws a lot of legitimate contact. It's not a zero sum game, but there's no denying drawing contact/fouls is a big part of his game. His game is built on deception. It's smart.
But he does flop often. Hey, if the ref is going to blow the whistle, might as well cash in to help your team.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It's a rip through by definition, and should be called as such.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:30 pm to Epic Cajun
It's difficult to refer that in real time. Reputation should precede him though, I agree.
Manu used to get that call often, but the past few years officials have let that go, whereas Harden will get that call now. It's star calls more than anything.
Manu used to get that call often, but the past few years officials have let that go, whereas Harden will get that call now. It's star calls more than anything.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:25 pm to lsupride87
quote:Yes. Kyrie averaged 1.5 fewer per game than Lebron, and at his current rate Harden is averaging 10 (16.3 to 6.1) more per game than Lebron in this comparison.
So he averaged 1.5 more per game....
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:11 pm to slackster
My God, Harden is such a cheap con artist ugly kardashian f ing pussy
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:16 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
ames Harden is the basketball equivalent of the big burly slugger who has a mediocre batting average but walks
No, he's the slap-hitting Ichiro running out the box as he flails putting bat on ball. It's annoying & not fun to watch.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:21 pm to AjaxFury
Ichiro constantly puts the ball in play creating action. Free throws slow the game to a crawl and cause 
like a guy who constantly walks. Sure it helps the team win but as an unbiased observer it's boring.
like a guy who constantly walks. Sure it helps the team win but as an unbiased observer it's boring.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:22 pm to Boomshockalocka
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he's a unique player in that the way defenses try to guard him opens up this opportunity for him to draw the foul. Other guys can't do it bc they aren't as skilled and smart.
It must take a piece of your bball soul defending this absolute garbage type player. I'd be ashamed if that was our team's #1 guy. You have to "reach" so far to defend "James", it's laughable.
Harden is a mess.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:27 pm to AjaxFury
harden has the utmost respect of the coaches and players he goes up against. In fact I'd almost go as far as saying that not having an appreciation of harden is a sure fire sign of a casual fan. Anybody who really knows the game knows how truly special he is.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:28 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
In fact I'd almost go as far as saying that not having an appreciation of harden is a sure fire sign of a casual fan. Anybody who really knows the game knows how truly special he is.
"His ability to draw fouls on the perimeter is transcendent."
-No player ever
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:31 pm to slackster
That's like one or so possessions a game where he baits the poor defender into fouling him on a three pointer. He knows exactly when to do it too. 
how many times does he try to get the foul and not actually be fouled. Very. Very Rarely.
how many times does he try to get the foul and not actually be fouled. Very. Very Rarely. Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:32 pm to Boomshockalocka
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That's like one or so possessions a game where he baits the poor defender into fouling him on a three pointer. He knows exactly when to do it too. how many times does he try to get the foul and not actually be fouled. Very. Very Rarely.
It is an elite skill, I'm not arguing otherwise, but isn't fun to watch. Same with LeBron when he flops. Just completely unnecessary considering their other skills.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:34 pm to slackster
Please Don't ever compare what James does to the crap that Lebron pulls.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Please Don't ever compare what James does to the crap that Lebron pulls.
The only difference is that it works for Harden and not for LeBron.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 7:32 pm to AjaxFury
quote:What Harden does is no different than flopping to sell a call.
It must take a piece of your bball soul defending this absolute garbage type player. I'd be ashamed if that was our team's #1 guy. You have to "reach" so far to defend "James", it's laughable.
Harden is a mess.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 7:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Please Don't ever compare what James does to the crap that Lebron pulls.
amen... lebron is a superstar. #13 for houston is a gimmick player. If not for his gimmick he is just another mediocre player.
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