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In terms of CFB heartbreak, why isn't 1998 UCLA brought up more?

Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by karmew32
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:17 am
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When discussions of the most devastating losses in CFB history come up, 3 of the most popular choices are as follows:

1998 Kansas State's loss to Texas A&M in the Big 12 Championship Game
2007 West Virginia's loss to Pitt
2011 Oklahoma State's loss at Iowa State

These games involved a team without a modern title blowing a winnable game against a team they should've easily beaten, costing them a shot at a national title in the process.

However, 1998 UCLA's loss at Miami in the final week of the regular season, despite meeting all of the criteria in the previous paragraph, seems to get relatively lost in the shuffle. Why is that? Is it because of their 1954 title (pre-post-Bowl poll era)? Or was their loss overshadowed by Kansas State's later in the day? Is it the fact that Los Angeles isn't a college town like Manhattan, Morgantown, or Stillwater?
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:29 am to
Well for one, UCLA's game ended in the first half of the Kansas State-Texas A&M game. They were also ranked behind Tennessee and Kansas State coming into their game. It wasn't like they had a berth to BCS NCG in their grasp while they were playing and let it slip away like the other three teams did.
Posted by karmew32
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:34 am to
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They were also ranked behind Tennessee and Kansas State coming into their game.

Computer rankings had more weight in the BCS formula back then, so they were ranked ahead of Kansas State coming into the weekend. The Kansas State fans in attendance at the Big 12 title game famously erupted in joy when UCLA's loss was announced.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:34 am to
Probably the biggest reason it isn't brought up more on THIS particular site is it didn't have any impact on LSU, unlike 2007 and 2011 which had direct impacts on LSU. I would venture to guess nationally it gets more attention than the WVU and OSU losses.
Posted by karmew32
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:36 am to
KSU's loss didn't have any impact on LSU either and it seems to get brought up more than UCLA's loss on here.
Posted by usc6158
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:38 am to
They got beat in the Rose Bowl anyway. And it's UCLA football so tens of people care.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:48 am to
Also wild about this game, UCLA didn't even have to reschedule it.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:52 am to
Because ucla is irrelevant
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:53 am to
Because the last two games of that season (Miami and Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl) showed they were very soft and overmatched against top quality competition. They beat some soft West Coast teams but got the ball rammed down their throats by Edgerrin James and Ron Dayne.

If I recall they lost both of those games by double digits.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:56 am to
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Computer rankings had more weight in the BCS formula back then, so they were ranked ahead of Kansas State coming into the weekend.



Okay, I didn't know that. But it seemed like that UCLA team was a paper tiger all season. They were absolutely atrocious defensively. Even if they had found a way to get to the NCG, they would have gotten thumped by Tennessee.
Posted by karmew32
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:58 am to
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Even if they had found a way to get to the NCG, they would have gotten thumped by Tennessee.

People say the same thing about 2011 Oklahoma State, yet their loss to Iowa State is almost unanimously considered one of the top 5 most devastating losses in CFB history.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:59 am to
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KSU's loss didn't have any impact on LSU either and it seems to get brought up more than UCLA's loss on here.
Probably because TD has a lot more Aggie fans than UCLA ones on here. They don't have much athletic success to celebrate, so playing spoiler to someone else's championship dreams is like A&M winning the super bowl
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:03 am to
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KSU's loss didn't have any impact on LSU either and it seems to get brought up more than UCLA's loss on here.


That reason is obvious. LSU fans hate Aggy.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:11 am to
Because looking back on it, that team wasn't as good as others mentioned and they would have gotten blasted by any of Tennessee, FSU, or Kansas State. Wisconsin whipped their arse at home in the Rose Bowl that year and they did it by running the same 5-6 plays repeatedly. UCLA couldn't stop the run that year.
Posted by karmew32
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:16 am to
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[UCLA] wasn't as good as others mentioned and they would have gotten blasted by any of Tennessee, FSU, or Kansas State.

2011 Oklahoma State likely would've gotten blasted by LSU (mainly due to LSU being a GOAT-caliber team that season; Okie State was certainly on the level of a typical national champion), yet their loss is almost universally considered a top 5 most devastating CFB loss ever.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:18 am to
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2011 Oklahoma State likely would've gotten blasted by LSU (mainly due to LSU being a GOAT-caliber team that season; Okie State was certainly on the level of a typical national champion), yet their loss is almost universally considered a top 5 most devastating CFB loss ever.


Not by me. That Oklahoma State loss isn't anywhere remotely close to 2007 WVU/Pitt, for instance. That game would be at the top of my list.

Texas losing to Georgia in the 1984 Cotton Bowl is another one.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:20 am to
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People say the same thing about 2011 Oklahoma State, yet their loss to Iowa State is almost unanimously considered one of the top 5 most devastating losses in CFB history.


It was a devastating loss because it cost LSU a title, not Oklahoma State. They were great offensively, but everyone knew Bama and LSU were on another level.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:29 am to
That UCLA team was soft. Ron Dayne is still running
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:42 am to
Miami exposed Cade McCown that day. Up until that point McCown had been mentioned as a Heisman candidate. After that I'm not sure he gets drafted in the First Round.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:43 am to
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Is it because of their 1954 title
I’m fairly confident nobody was or is thinking about UCLA’s 1954 national Championship
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