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re: I'm starting to see how ATL rationalized taking Penix
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:09 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:09 pm to lsufball19
Kirk’s contract is somewhat front loaded but his dead cap in 2 years is still 25 million.
It’s still rough. what if Penix is THE GUY. that’s a hard contract to eat to turn the ball over to Penix.
It’s still rough. what if Penix is THE GUY. that’s a hard contract to eat to turn the ball over to Penix.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 2:53 pm
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Loading Twitter Embed.... Well that will shut some narratives up on here
A lot of teams had Penix rated higher than JJ and this is proof of that.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:25 pm to Minden tiger
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It's reminiscent of the Jordan Love situation for me, but you do add in enhanced injury risk for the prospect. It's a big swing and all I'm saying is I don't hate it.
Jordan Love was drafted 26th
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:26 pm to Epic Cajun
Also the jury is very much still out on Jordan Love 
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:27 pm to Smoke90
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if he can give you 8-10 solid years, him being a couple years older is irrelevant.
The age isn't a concern because of his eventual retirement, the age is a concern in terms of development. He should be head and shoulders above the majority of his competition currently because he should be further along in his development due to his age.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:28 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Well that will shut some narratives up on here A lot of teams had Penix rated higher than JJ and this is proof of that.
This is irrelevant to the point people are making about the falcons decision to draft pennix
I like pennix as a prospect, that’s a different thing than him being a good pick for the falcons with their current situation
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:31 pm to Minden tiger
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I think ATL is hoping they can get 1-2 healthy playoff seasons out of Kirk
Atlanta’s Dead Cap hit for Cousins:
2025: $65,000,000
2026: $25,000,000
2027: $12,500,000
They are stuck with Cousins for longer than 1-2 years, even if he’s sitting on the bench or his couch.
2028: Penix will either be making big money because he’s successful, or Atlanta will be looking for another QB
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:32 pm to wildtigercat93
Time will tell the story. No one knows anything.
This board gushed over Trevor Lawrence as a can't miss generational prospect and I said I didn't see the the intangibles and anticipatory traits it takes to reach the upper echelon in the NFL.
Penix Jr. moves well in the pocket and throws with good anticipation underneath and incredible accuracy down the field in tight coverage. If he's healthy and upright he has a chance to be a high-quality starter.
This board gushed over Trevor Lawrence as a can't miss generational prospect and I said I didn't see the the intangibles and anticipatory traits it takes to reach the upper echelon in the NFL.
Penix Jr. moves well in the pocket and throws with good anticipation underneath and incredible accuracy down the field in tight coverage. If he's healthy and upright he has a chance to be a high-quality starter.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:34 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Atlanta’s Dead Cap hit for Cousins: 2025: $65,000,000 2026: $25,000,000 2027: $12,500,000 They are stuck with Cousins for longer than 1-2 years, even if he’s sitting on the bench or his couch.
Also limits how much you can restructure his contract to open up cap space over that time span as well, because you won’t want to kick that can further into Pennix’s window
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:37 pm to Minden tiger
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Time will tell the story. No one knows anything.
Yeah I totally agree. But you’re not listening to the actual points being laid out here. It’s not about if Pennix will hit as a pick, it’s about how even if that does happen, the massive amount of lost value and cap space the falcons will endure even in that best case scenario
No one knows how each prospect will pan out, but you can still gauge good and bad process. This is bad process.
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This board gushed over Trevor Lawrence as a can't miss generational prospect and I said I didn't see the the intangibles and anticipatory traits it takes to reach the upper echelon in the NFL.
I don’t think this board was that high on the board, this board always hates the top QB projected. But again this argument isn’t about evaluating Pennix’s talent nor Lawrence’s
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Penix Jr. moves well in the pocket and throws with good anticipation underneath and incredible accuracy down the field in tight coverage. If he's healthy and upright he has a chance to be a high-quality starter.
I agree with all that. Still doesn’t change my point one bit.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:42 pm to Minden tiger
Maybe they wanted to shut down the Deion and Shedeur circus
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:47 pm to Epic Cajun
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Jordan Love was drafted 26th
And Rodgers was a long term starter for GB not a free agent they literally just signed 7-8 weeks ago
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:49 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:so a reporter based out of Denver knows what these 3 teams were interested in? BS. Every insider close to the Saints always were pointing toward OL considering the recent events regarding Hurst & Ram.
Well that will shut some narratives up on here
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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So best case scenario they burned a pile of cash and the biggest advantage in football (young QB on a rookie deal
Exactly. It’s like saying the best case scenario is that Cousins gets hurt and Penix is great.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:54 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yeah I totally agree. But you’re not listening to the actual points being laid out here. It’s not about if Pennix will hit as a pick, it’s about how even if that does happen, the massive amount of lost value and cap space the falcons will endure even in that best case scenario
No one knows how each prospect will pan out, but you can still gauge good and bad process. This is bad process.
The cap is going up, and will continue to go up, so the hit could be less consequential than it appears.
Overall, you are right about it being a bad process, but one I think we will continue to see in the new NFL.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:56 pm to Minden tiger
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The cap is going up, and will continue to go up, so the hit could be less consequential than it appears.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:56 pm to Minden tiger
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Kirk is 35 off a blown achilles tendon, so injury/durability are just as concerning as they are with Penix. Even if healthy, it's realistic Kirk's play could decline rapidly over the next couple seasons.
If you're concerned about that then don't sign him to a 4 yr 180 mil contract. Sign Minshew for 2 yr 20 or some shite and draft Penix at 8.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:00 pm to Minden tiger
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The cap is going up, and will continue to go up, so the hit could be less consequential than it appears.
The cap goes up for everyone, that doesn’t make your decisions less consequential.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:01 pm to wildtigercat93
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So best case scenario they burned a pile of cash and the biggest advantage in football (young QB on a rookie deal)
Brilliant
On top of it, if you're Cousins, the Falcons just let you know loud and clear that they just signed you into a rebuilding project and aren't going to commit to winning during your tenure.
They just took what should be a cornerstone pick to help you succeed and burned it on someone that quite literally will never be on the field with you.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:16 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Well that will shut some narratives up on here
It makes the Falcons look even dumber. Assuming "per sources" is real, the Falcons had a willing trade partner(s) to trade down, get a later first rounder this year, and a first round 2025 pick.
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