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I'm not sure how the NIL deals are structured but

Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6689 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:25 am
If you're getting $1.5 million, or even $100k,
you shouldn't be able to opt out a bowl game. That should void your NIL or the very least make you pay back X amount. NIL's should be paid after the bowl game is done. Don't give them everything up front. Make them work for it.

Also, the portal should not start until after the championship game. Having it open December 4th. Is destroying these games. Even though I'm not a fan of the meaningless bowl games.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61127 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:27 am to
NILs should be structured to pay those who play, not those who haven't played.


I actually believe 99% of NIL deals are made with performance incentives.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35333 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:29 am to
NIL deals technically have to be structured so they aren't tied to you playing for a certain team. So a clause that you have to play a bowl game would need to be extremely broad.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35370 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:38 am to
It seems people confuse NIL for a 1099 type contract.

quote:

NIL refers to the way college athletes can receive compensation by leveraging their name, image, and/or likeness through marketing and promotional endeavors.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6450 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:39 am to
I sprained my pinky toe, you really gonna force me to play with an injury?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118963 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:58 am to
NIL is just a name to let boosters pay players outright now
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 10:31 am to
I don’t disagree, but this would require a level of oversight that the NCAA has refused to do. That’s the problem.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53739 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 10:45 am to
quote:

NILs should be structured


quote:

NIL deals technically have to be structured


No one really knows, do they? NIL seems to have been thrown out there with zero guidelines on how it operates. Terrible mistake.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:47 am to
quote:

If you're getting $1.5 million, or even $100k,
you shouldn't be able to opt out a bowl game. That should void your NIL or the very least make you pay back X amount. NIL's should be paid after the bowl game is done. Don't give them everything up front. Make them work for it.


All you'd be doing is pushing the money to back channels again.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:49 am to
Was there ever a reason given for the December 4th date? Seems like they just threw a dart at a calendar and said that’ll work.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18345 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure how the NIL deals are structured


They’re not. That’s the point.

The NCAA and universities can’t control how adults make money off their name, image, and likeness. Recruiting is now tied to NIL so players can demand whatever they want. Someone will pay it without strings attached.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64600 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

NIL deals technically have to be structured so they aren't tied to you playing for a certain team


Paid for past performance? Potential performance? Or just for being?


This is worse than free agency for pros.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4830 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:29 pm to
NIL isn't between the player and the school boss.

But yeah, if I was a business, I'd have a bowl game clause in there.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20349 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:14 pm to
All the sponsors need to do is put a clause in and hold back money based on playing in the bowl game. Don’t play, you don’t get the “bowl clause money” Not difficult at all.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:18 pm to
Seems like NIL should do like NFL did a while back. Rookies/frosh get a set amount (minimum or incentive based) and the proven players get the actual money. The biggest flaw with this is the constant portal threats for more money on vets. But it kind of this that now.

They also need to go back to the 1 transfer rule. Otherwise, sit a year
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:40 pm to
Most if not all these kids that are opting out are getting ready to be drafted to make more than their NIL deals. The only way to restructure is if you prorate or have a clause that stipulates payments to be deferred until all games are played. Problems is you will have kids still opt out if it's prorated and the for the other, kids will choose a school that won't have that certain clause. The deferred payment clause would have to be universal, but then you'll probably run into litigation from students claiming they are jeopardizing future earnings are something like that
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19988 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

It seems people confuse NIL for a 1099 type contract.


Do you think they are paid on a W2?

But I get your point. NIL payments are structured the same way bags of cash of been handed out for years. Kids just have a ton of flexibility to move around now and leverage new deals.

You could incentivize an athlete to stay out by obligating them to appear in a commercial or photo shoot at a certain location for multiple future dates in order to earn the full contract value, or any other public appearances, but that’s kind of it.
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