re: If resume > head to head 2011 LSU should be National Champs!

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No team other than Alabama would have y’all vouching for a squad with the same record, easier schedule, worse wins, and a worse loss

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No team except Bama would anyone argue head to head doesn’t matter. The “easier schedule” is marginal. All the SOS formulas have them close but they you mention “worse loss” you want to count Texas a good loss for Bama but penalize them for losing to a top 15 team who is their arch rival by 3. The hypocrisy is staggering

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Head to head is tie breaker when the records are the same and other factors are close.

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What puts Oregon ahead of Alabama? What put OSU at #1 in the first CFP poll this year?

What put Mich 3rd?

I know you aren’t on the committee. I’m not asking you to defend them. Just your opinion.

I think Alabama is under ranked given the totality of the committee’s observable criteria this season. I think they’d have a great shot to make the playoff if the committee was consistent in their logic. I think the committee has their 4 teams in mind and rank accordingly and justify it after the fact.

I think Texas has to remain ahead of Alabama if they have the same record given who they’ve played this year. And I don’t think it’s even a discussion to put Alabama ahead of them.

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Your OP is about how LSU should have been national champs because of resume

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No Forest the point of this thread is to point out you can use head to head when it suits you and resume when that suits you. Everyone knew the stakes in 2011 Bama won, they get the trophy.

If the 2023 playoff comes down to a choice between 12-1 Texas and 12-1 Bama. Texas should go because they beat Bama (at Bama by 10). End of discussion. The sos gap is close enough that it doesn’t justify ignoring it the game played on the field.

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What puts Oregon ahead of Alabama? What put OSU at #1 in the first CFP poll this year? What put Mich 3rd?

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I’m sorry i must have missed where those teams played each other. You can’t use head to head when teams don’t play Forest.

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No Forest

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Yes, Farmer Fran, that’s exactly what your OP argues. As I said, resume is used for determining who gets in. You say that LSU had the best resume in 2011. Well, LSU’s great resume was rewarded and they played in the national title game. They then lost to the #2 team.

You’re also arguing about two totally different systems. One was a computer system, the other is based on the conclusions of a group of humans. With humans, a given team’s exact resume and how it compares to other probably carries more weight than it does with computers, too.

I’m trying to nail down what is most important, per the committee. We’ve got resume, and record, head to head, and eye test.

These teams are playing in a world controlled by this year’s committee’s criteria.

I think my question to you was valid. Ignore anyone who thinks Texas needs to fall behind Alabama. The committee isn’t going to do that and it’s silly anyways. 0% chance it happens. It’s not interesting.

The committee screwing Alabama per their own words and insights is what I’m interested in.

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Yes, Farmer Fran, that’s exactly what your OP argues.

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I’m sorry you have to take everything literally and can’t understand using an example to make another point. Sad since I even explained it to you

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I’m sorry you have to take everything literally and can’t understand using an example to make another point. Sad since I even explained it to you

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I know what you’re saying, it’s just dumb.

I’m not sure why you care about what was argued TWELVE YEARS AGO versus what people are arguing now.

Bottom line is that the committee will make its decision. None of us can control it. The teams just have to go out and play their best and see what happens.

Ah, the elusive 12 year melt.

Impressive.