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re: If osu wins the rest of their games in 10+ except maybe 1 close one

Posted on 11/22/25 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Would not go undefeated in today's environment


I don’t know about that. We’re not talking leather helmet times with 200lb OL. I don’t think any team right now would be equipped to slow down Nebraska’s run game. They’d chew clock. I do think they’d get scored on but they’d control games.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 2:25 pm to
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he best thing 1995 Nebraska had going for them was they didn’t have to play Switzer’s OU, FSU, or Miami - elite teams that recruited to beat them (and could stop their running game) because they played them virtually every year for the Big 8 title or Orange Bowl.

Nebraska beat Miami in 1994. 1995 Nebraska was a stronger team and humiliated Florida.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:28 pm to
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The key word there being KSU. Anyone like the Selmon bros., Tony Casillas, Brian Bosworth, Cortez Kennedy, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, and Warren Sapp on those defenses?

Not sure offhand about the others, but you have to know that Nebraska beat the Warren Sapp/Ray Lewis Miami in 1994.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:36 pm to
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The key word there being KSU.

Anyone like the Selmon bros., Tony Casillas, Brian Bosworth, Cortez Kennedy, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, and Warren Sapp on those defenses?

That would be no.

Or anyone like Vince Wilfork, Jonathan Vilma, D.J. Williams, and Ed Reed like 2001 Nebraska faced?


Yes KSU number 1 ranked Defense had all Americans(3 to be exact) just like those guys were in college

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None of those players were as good as the ones mentioned in my previous post.


Mason and Muhammad are literally top 40 all time in the NFL receiving yards.

Tony Banks played a decade in the NFL

Nick Saban is a 7x champion coach

By your logic that's a super amazing win for Nebraska lolllololol
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:57 pm to
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01 Miami was better than both 95 Nebraska and 19 LSU
hands down the most overrated team ever in any sport. If their best player wasn't injured Boston College probably beats them.

They aren't even the best Miami team ever(87) nevermind 95 Nebraska or 19 LSU or 05 Texas or 13 FSU or 18 Clemson or 88 ND
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:55 pm to
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VerlanderBEAST


Honest question...how did you really feel when Michigan lost to Appalachian State?
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:15 pm to
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Are they the best team ever? Over 19 lsu, 20 bama, 95 Neb?


Regular season schedule has been arse. It would take a more dominant playoff run than last year to get them into the conversation
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:15 pm to
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Honest question...how did you really feel when Michigan lost to Appalachian State?


Disappointed because I thought UM had a chance to have a top 5 team but I knew App St was really fricking good and I would have said before the season that they were a top 4 or 5 toughest team on the schedule
Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:18 am to
Holy shite, thank you. That 2001 Miami team is so overrated. They are always everyone’s #1 or #2 anytime a greatest team conversation comes up.

People put them at #1 or #2 because of the roster. Not the actual results of the season, the competition they faced, or hanging on for dear life against #18 Virginia Tech and #21 Boston College.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:53 am to
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Nebraska beat Miami in 1994. 1995 Nebraska was a stronger team and humiliated Florida.

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Not sure offhand about the others, but you have to know that Nebraska beat the Warren Sapp/Ray Lewis Miami in 1994.

*Sigh*

Does it occur to anyone that maybe one key reason why 1995 Nebraska was more dominant than than 1994 Nebraska was because the 1994 version had to play Ray Lewis and Warren Sapp in the dreaded Orange Bowl while the 1995 version played a Florida defense with nothing higher than a third round pick for the next three years?

Nebraska had a lot of great teams from 1973-1993 before Osborne finally broke through. Three things kept him from winning national titles in those years:

1. Switzer’s OU

2. Miami and FSU defensive talent and familiarity with the Nebraska scheme

3. Strong OOC opponents like’77-‘78 Bama, ‘82-‘83 Penn State, ‘91-‘92 Washington. That’s at least three national champions of the top of my head.

1995 Nebraska faced none of that.

They beat Big 8 rivals they were 71-3-1 against in the Osborne era, mediocre OOC competition (including a team that folded the program after the season), and a bowl opponent that (while good) was a mismatch for the Nebraska style due to their youth and overemphasis on the passing game.

During Nebraska’s 1-7 bowl stretch (very nearly 0-8) from 1987-1994, they played defenses with future NFL Hall of Fame talent (Cortez Kennedy, Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp, Ray Lewis) in the defensive front and coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Mickey Andrews who were highly familiar with their scheme. They also played several of those games in one of the toughest venues in CFB history: the old Orange Bowl.

This board thinks going from facing NFL Hall of Famers in the defensive front to nothing better than a third rounder makes no difference in how easily you can run the football.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:49 pm to
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Globetrotter747
still waiting to here you tout how awesome Nebraska D was because they spanked 6-5-1 MSU had Saban Banks Mason Muhammad lolllllolll

It's also hilarious that you continue to avoid talking about KSU who did exactly what you claim these 1st rd pick and HOFers would have done and it didn't matter because Frazier threw 4 tds and Nebraska scored on D and on Special Teams and blew them out.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:02 pm to
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still waiting to here you tout how awesome Nebraska D was because they spanked 6-5-1 MSU had Saban Banks Mason Muhammad lolllllolll

6-5-1 tells the story.
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It's also hilarious that you continue to avoid talking about KSU who did exactly what you claim these 1st rd pick and HOFers would have done and it didn't matter because Frazier threw 4 tds and Nebraska scored on D and on Special Teams and blew them out.

I said teams with elite defensive personnel who schemed to beat Nebraska because they faced them regularly in big games.

Barry Switzer was 12-5 against Osborne. FSU and Miami were 9-3 against him from 1980-1994. Those teams had Hall of Famers and legends of the game on D. No one knows or cares who was on D for KSU in 1995.

Most of Osborne’s teams would have at least run the regular season table with the 1995 team’s schedule. Osborne was 25-0 against Kansas. 25-0 against KSU, and 12-0 against Colorado without Bill McCartney.

Schedule couldn’t have been more favorable for an unbeaten run.
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
379 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
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2025 LSU legitimately might be undefeated against OSUs schedule


LSU would probably lose to Illinois, Washington, Penn St, and the cheaters. The middle of the Big Ten is always underrated and not ranked when they should be. The bowls then prove that out like last year and will this year too.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:29 pm to
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6-5-1 tells the story

According to you record doesn't matter, future NFL production is what actually counts

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I said teams with elite defensive personnel who schemed to beat Nebraska because they faced them regularly in big games.


All Americans are by definition the elite players... KSU had 3 of them and were extremely familiar having to play them every single season.

And what you keep avoiding is the fact that KSU did exactly what you claim Miami or OU or FSU would have done which is contain Nebraska's run Nebraska still dominated with Frazier throwing 4tds + scored on D & Special Teams
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5690 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:17 am to
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According to you record doesn't matter, future NFL production is what actually counts

Everything matters.
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All Americans are by definition the elite players... KSU had 3 of them and were extremely familiar having to play them every single season.

No one on 1995 KSU was even in the ballpark of the players I have mentioned on this thread.
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And what you keep avoiding is the fact that KSU did exactly what you claim Miami or OU or FSU would have done which is contain Nebraska's run Nebraska still dominated with Frazier throwing 4tds + scored on D & Special Teams

I’m not avoiding it at all. I just think a little bit more highly of prime OU, Miami, and FSU defenses than 1995 Kansas State.

The Miami defenses of the U days were designed to stop Oklahoma and Nebraska. Jimmy Johnson spent five years at Okie Stare defending both teams every year and damn near beat them both the year before bolting to Miami.

Once in Miami, he recruited a hell of a lot better players (and inherited a lot of great ones from Schnellenberger) and was 4-0 against OU and Nebraska, including a shutout of the Huskers in 1988.

Miami reclaimed that identity under Butch Davis (a former assistant to Johnson) and that was the basis for the great 2001 team that overwhelmed Nebraska in the Rose Bowl with. Heisman winner at QB.

2001 Miami isn’t necessarily my choice for the GOAT, but they would be a tough matchup for 1995 Nebraska based on style and personnel.

Guys like Wilfork, Vilma, and Williams in the defensive front with Ed Reed (probably the best free safety in the history of football) running the alley and playing centerfield. A first round CB (Phillip Buchanon) to lock down any of Nebraska’s receivers who never saw an NFL practice field. I don’t believe 1995 KSU had guys like that.

Offensively, Miami had superior personnel everywhere. They would score.

I like Nebraska and old school option football. Love the I, the Wishbone, the Flexbone that Paul Johnson and the service academies have ran a lot. I ran a lot of I, Veer, and Wing-T in my coaching days.

All that to say… the I is tough to run against personnel that’s better than you. Les Miles’ LSU teams struggled to move the ball on Saban’s Bama teams because they were running right into the teeth of some of the most physical defenses of all time.

Similarly, Osborne always had problems scoring against teams that had legendary personnel on D that they couldn’t push around.

The defenses that Nebraska faced in prime OU, FSU, and Miami were a hell of a lot better than anything they saw in 1995. Those defenses were also complimented by good offenses for the most part.

You can line up in the I and move the ball on 1995 KSU and Florida without an NFL arm or receivers, but that isn’t going to work against 2001 Miami or 2016 Bama or 2021 UGA just like it didn’t work against the Selmon Bros., Bosworth, Cortez Kennedy, etc. Multiple guys in the NFL and College HOF - where you won’t find guys from 1995 KSU.
Posted by RollMFWave22
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:44 am to
Everyone is chasing 1899 Sewanee. 5 shutouts on the road in 6 days.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:52 am to
How long have you lived with your mom? You are the definition of an asshat. Every post of yours is a troll no matter the board. Get a life and a hobby.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4278 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:57 am to
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2019 LSU would struggle to score on 2025 Ohio State.


Have a downvote.

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The 2019 LSU offense isn't that much better than 2025 Ohio State's offense.


Have another & lay off the devil's lettuce son
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9307 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Just to be clear no LSU fan considers 2020 Bama as the best team ever.

FIFY
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:55 pm to
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How long have you lived with your mom? You are the definition of an asshat. Every post of yours is a troll no matter the board. Get a life and a hobby.


Just because you dont like my opinion doesnt make it a troll. Quit crying and stop following me around creep
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