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If Harold Baines is a Hall of Famer, when does Dale Murphy get measured for his HOF plaque
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:09 pm
What a joke of a selection
Baines was selected over the following players and managers:
Albert Belle
Joe Carter
Will Clark
Orel Hershiser
Davey Johnson
Lou Piniella
Baines was selected over the following players and managers:
Albert Belle
Joe Carter
Will Clark
Orel Hershiser
Davey Johnson
Lou Piniella
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 11:15 pm
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:14 pm to SPEEDY
Who thinks of this in December? Genius!
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:15 pm to SPEEDY
You left off Steve Garvey and Fred McGriff
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:17 pm to SPEEDY
EDgar Martinez too
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:22 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Mike Trout passed now-Hall of Famer Harold Baines in career WAR (38.3) back in May 2016. He still hadn't yet reached 700 career games.
quote:
To this point: Harold Baines career WAR: 38.7
Some notable people not in HOF:
- Edgar Martinez: 68.4
- Larry Walker: 72.7
- Gary Sheffield: 60.7
- Fred McGriff: 52.6
- Jeff Kent: 55.4
Hell, Miguel Tejada is 47.3.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:25 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Players on the current HOF ballot with more bWAR than Harold Baines (38.7):
Bonds
Clemens
Mussina
Schilling
Walker
Rolen
Ramirez
Halladay
Jones
Helton
Sheffield
Pettitte
Sosa
Rivera
Kent
McGriff
Berkman
Oswalt
Tejada
Vizquel
Polanco
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:27 pm to SPEEDY
I’m starting to believe the main purpose of the Veterans Committee is to be so bad that the public starts to believe the writers aren’t so bad after all. As bad as the BBWAA IS, at least they never elected Harold Baines and Rick Ferrell and Lloyd Waner and High Pockets Kelly. If you look at the worst HOFers, an overwhelming number of them were voted in by the Veterans Committee. They truly are the worst.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:50 pm to EmperorGout
If Steve Garvey would have kept his dick in his pants, he probably would have been in the HoF. No one likes a liar and a fraud.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:11 am to SPEEDY
Baines would’ve had 3000 hits but for work stoppages. As it is, he is number 46 on the list and everybody ahead of him is in the hall except people like Pete rose. And he played the prime of his career in a pitchers’ park.
Sure he is questionable, but less questionable than these relief pitchers.
Offensively he’s not that obtuse. But after he left Chicago he was primarily a DH and that’s an argument against him.
Sure he is questionable, but less questionable than these relief pitchers.
Offensively he’s not that obtuse. But after he left Chicago he was primarily a DH and that’s an argument against him.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:12 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:17 am to Overbrook
quote:
Baines would’ve had 3000 hits but for work stoppages. As it is, he is number 46 on the list and everybody ahead of him is in the hall except people like Pete rose. And he played the prime of his career in a pitchers’ park. Sure he is questionable, but less questionable than these relief pitchers. Offensively he’s not that obtuse. But after he left Chicago he was primarily a DH and that’s an argument against him.
So is this an argument for or against him
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:34 am to SPEEDY
quote:
Orel Hershiser
I know the NFL HOF is a lot more lenient (despite what happened with Baines) but if Terrell Davis is in the NFL HOF...for his tiny brief career.
Then Orel Hershisher needs to be in the MLB HOF for his short period of owning the entire fricking league and basically winning the 1988 WS all by himself (with the help of one swing by Gibson.)
But Hershisher in 1988 was amazing - totally fricking dominated baseball - pitched 67 scoreless innings including the playoffs. That's 7 games where you don't allow a single fricking run.
7 games.
And he was pretty awesome for a few years after.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 4:57 am to SPEEDY
I like Harold Baines. I always thought he was a real good player, but this is the Hall of Fame not Hall of Really Good. These HOFer selections are getting ridiculous. The HOF isn't meant for All-Star players. It is meant for players who were the best at their position for a very long time. There are way to many players in both the Baseball and NFL HOF's. You shouldn't see very many HOFers over your lifetime, and when you see that special one you know. Harold Baines wasn't "special". He was damn good, but not "special". In fairness to him there are a lot of HOFers that aren't "special" either. You shouldn't have players elected in every year just to say you did and have a ceremony.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 6:34 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:51 am to SPEEDY
I don't have any issues with the Lee Smith induction, but Harold fricking Baines??
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 5:52 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 5:53 am to msudawg1200
quote:
I like Harold Baines. I always thought he was a real good player, but this is the Hall of Fame not Hall of Really Good. These HOFer selections are getting ridiculous. The HOFer isn't meant for All-Star players. It is meant for players who were the best at their position for a very long time. There are way to many players in both the Baseball and NFL HOF's. You shouldn't see very many HOFers over your lifetime, and when you see that special one you know. Harold Baines wasn't "special". He was damn good, but not "special", but in fairness to him there are a lot of HOFers that aren't "special" either. You shouldn't have players elected in every year just to say you did and have a ceremony.
well put
Posted on 12/10/18 at 6:46 am to SPEEDY
what was Dale's batting average. Wasn't it around 250
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:33 am to SPEEDY
quote:TYFYS
Joe Carter
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:25 am to SPEEDY
Wow Harold Fukin Baines. No way that should’ve ever happened. 
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:29 am to SPEEDY
The HOF is getting watered down, and its because they refuse to let the steroid era guys in. There's a whole decade of guys that own the record books that are blackballed. The voters aren't going to skip several years without putting anybody in, so this is what you get. Second tier guys that aren't really HOF level get bumped up. Next you will see a movement for the 40 or so non-HOFers with better credentials than Baines and Smith to get enshrined. And that will be the reasoning. "He's got better numbers than Baines, who is already a HOFer".
The only way to stop the bleeding is to let the juicers in. Nobody took their kids to the park to watch Harold Baines and Lee Smith. They went to see McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, and Clemens. Its the baseball hall of fame, we're not electing them to office, or making them Pope. I don't see the need that everybody suddenly be squeaky clean to get in. There are all kind of scoundrels already in the Hall.
And put Pete Rose in while you're at it.
The only way to stop the bleeding is to let the juicers in. Nobody took their kids to the park to watch Harold Baines and Lee Smith. They went to see McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, and Clemens. Its the baseball hall of fame, we're not electing them to office, or making them Pope. I don't see the need that everybody suddenly be squeaky clean to get in. There are all kind of scoundrels already in the Hall.
And put Pete Rose in while you're at it.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:37 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Don’t forget Juan Gonzalez
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:56 am to msudawg1200
quote:
but this is the Hall of Fame not Hall of Really Good
Its not even hall of really good. This would be hall of above average for a fricking long time. His WAR7(WAR of best 7 seasons) is 21.4. This is fricking ATROCIOUS.
His best full season OPS+(park and period adjusted) is 144.
This is absolute trash.
Players with higher 7 year WAR peaks in RF
Nick Markakis
Hunter Pence
Alex Rios
Jayson Werth
Nick Swisher
Jermaine Dye
Josh Reddick
Trot Nixon
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