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re: If Brady wins 2 more Super Bowls
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:50 pm to cssamerican
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:50 pm to cssamerican
Title town 
Graham also led Rochester to the first ever NBA championship in his first year.
Graham also led Rochester to the first ever NBA championship in his first year.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 6:52 pm
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Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:50 pm to bomber77
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Solid, I've got Unitas at 4
In a somewhat biased selection, I've got Elway at #4.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:51 pm to bomber77
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Add the titles between Montana, Unitas, Graham and Brady and tell me it's not a huge factor
Unitas is the only one for whom championships are not the big argument for his being the GOAT
Which tells you something about the greatness of Unitas
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:52 pm to Kafka
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if Brady only plays the first two quarters of the SB but the Patriots still win, is he still half a SB behind Bradshaw for GOAT?
Why would he only play a half?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:53 pm to bomber77
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dd the titles between Montana, Unitas, Graham and Brady and tell me it's not a huge factor.
Even if it is a factor when someone says
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One more, and he is in the running for GOAT. Two more, and he is GOAT.
that's making it the deciding factor and that is stupid
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:54 pm to Ortho Reb
you answer my question first
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:56 pm to Kafka
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Why does the last 35 seconds in one game prevent Brady from being the GOAT now?
You don't think outcomes of games (more specifically Super Bowls) should be factored into a discussion.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 6:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
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You don't think outcomes of games (more specifically Super Bowls) should be factored into a discussion
35 seconds don't alter the judgment of a career
If Brady was the GOAT with 35 seconds to go, then he was still the GOAT 36 seconds later
And why isn't Bradshaw the GOAT? He has FOUR rings
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:01 pm to jacks40
Don't forget, there is no fact at stake. It's all about opinion in sports.
Most consider Jordan the GOAT in basketball although Wilts numbers dwarf his.
There are no definitive measurements.
Winners matter. Do you think that you can come up with some type of measurements that will convince everyone to your way of thinking?
Who do you think is the best?
Most consider Jordan the GOAT in basketball although Wilts numbers dwarf his.
There are no definitive measurements.
Winners matter. Do you think that you can come up with some type of measurements that will convince everyone to your way of thinking?
Who do you think is the best?
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:04 pm to bomber77
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Don't forget, there is no fact at stake. It's all about opinion in sports.
False. There are facts they are called stats.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:04 pm to jacks40
Who's the best then?
Yeah, I figured. Nice argument
Yeah, I figured. Nice argument
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:14 pm to bomber77
He's probably the GOAT now.
SB rings are vastly overrated so I don't care if he wins 2 more or not.
SB rings are vastly overrated so I don't care if he wins 2 more or not.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:19 pm to Kafka
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Unitas is the only one for whom championships are not the big argument for his being the GOAT
Which tells you something about the greatness of Unitas
And Unitas still won three rings. He dominated the regular season statistically like Manning did AND won in the postseason.
This post was edited on 1/13/13 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:57 pm to Kafka
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If Brady was the GOAT with 35 seconds to go, then he was still the GOAT 36 seconds later
Lol is this a serious statement? So game winning shots don't matter because they're already the GOAT regardless?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 7:58 pm to bomber77
Judging QBs purely by Superbowls is retarded.
That being said, I think when all is said and done, he'll go down as a top 5-7 QB.
That being said, I think when all is said and done, he'll go down as a top 5-7 QB.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:17 pm to Jcorye1
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Judging QBs purely by Superbowls is retarded.
Maybe. Who the QB is can make a difference when it comes to winning league championships. Let us take the Cleveland Browns. They won 8 league championships in their history.
Cleveland Browns (1946–95)
Suspended operations (1996–98)
Cleveland Browns (1999–present)
They won seven of them with Otto Graham as the quarterback. They went to the league championship all ten years he played, then the year he left they had a losing record. That is a hell of an argument for GOAT. Dan Marino had better stats in most cases, but I don't think anybody here is saying he is the GOAT. Why? Because he never won the big game. So, if you have to win one to be considered, it only makes sense that winning more makes a better case for you to be the GOAT.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:20 pm to jacks40
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False. There are facts they are called stats.
See, I don't agree with this either, I think a combination of eye tests, stats, and postseason actions help determine who the best is.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:24 pm to Jcorye1
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See, I don't agree with this either, I think a combination of eye tests, stats, and postseason actions help determine who the best is.
I'll drink to that.
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:25 pm to FootballNostradamus
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So game winning shots don't matter because they're already the GOAT regardless?
So it would be Brady's fault if Vinateri missed?
Look at the final drive of SB 25 compare to to the final drive in SB 36. What is the difference?
Posted on 1/13/13 at 8:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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So it would be Brady's fault if Vinateri missed?
Meh, most stats don't take into consideration dropped balls and wrongly run routes, same concept.
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