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re: If Aaron Rodgers were to retire this year would he have a better career than Drew Brees?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:45 pm to Drew Brews
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:45 pm to Drew Brews
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That's the one thing I'll give to Brees. In his prime, very rarely did he not cash in on a 2 minute/end of game situation. Dude is awesome in the hurry up. He just always had a defense ready to pull a "hold my beer" right after.
I would need to see the stats on this bc to me as a Saints fan I never really felt like it was a sure thing brees would score like it always was with Manning and Brady.
The Saints missed the playoffs a lot during brees “prime” too
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:51 pm to dukke v
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Why would you even do this?????
It's his fetish.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:56 pm to Drew Brews
He's had more 4th quarter comebacks ruined than any other QB, and it's not even close*
*this isn't an opinion, it's a real stat
*this isn't an opinion, it's a real stat
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:01 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
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I would need to see the stats on this bc to me as a Saints fan I never really felt like it was a sure thing brees would score like it always was with Manning and Brady.
The Saints missed the playoffs a lot during brees “prime” too
This article is from Dec. 2019, but it breaks it down really well
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Take Sunday for example when Brees gave the Saints a 46-45 lead with 53 seconds left after trailing 42-33 earlier in the quarter. That one doesn’t count because the defense allowed a game-winning field goal with no time left.
That game is what I refer to as a lost comeback — a game where a quarterback brought his team from behind in the fourth quarter to a lead, but still did not win the game.
Drew Brees has 19 lost comebacks, easily the most in NFL history. Manning and Brady only have seven each. Brett Favre played the most games at QB ever (326) and had nine lost comebacks.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:12 pm to diddlydawg7
Thanks for presenting the stats - media would make you believe it wasn’t even close. Lots of big numbers lots of playoff failures.
I’ll echo other and say Rodgers peak was higher and Brees longevity and consistency was his strength. Neither probably won as much as they should and Rodgers had some injury bug seasons.
But it’s not as slam dunk Rodgers is better as most would think, although this season he’s been on fire and SB win would move him quite above.
I’ll echo other and say Rodgers peak was higher and Brees longevity and consistency was his strength. Neither probably won as much as they should and Rodgers had some injury bug seasons.
But it’s not as slam dunk Rodgers is better as most would think, although this season he’s been on fire and SB win would move him quite above.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:30 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
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The Saints missed the playoffs a lot during brees “prime” too
That's fair, and I know Brees isn't the only QB to have a bad defense. But, these are the Saints defenses in the years Brees missed the playoffs.
(scoring D/total D)
2007 - 25/26
2008 - 26/23
2012 - 31/32
2014 - 28/31
2015 - 32/31
2016 - 31/27
Saints scoring O was Top 5 10 out of 15 seasons and never lower than 12th in points or yards.
None of that makes Brees better than Rodgers, to be clear, but it's not hard to understand why his individual greatness didn't always translate to team success.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:31 pm to Tigerfan56
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Peak Rodgers is a different level than peak any QB not named Mahomes
Rodgers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Brees
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:14 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Hell I think Rodgers is better than any QB ever, and Mahomes will be coming to take that title shortly.
this.
Peak Rodgers is the best I've ever seen. However, Mahomes does some amazing stuff as well and may take that title from Rodgers. But, I think Mahomes has two guys right now (hill and kelce) that are far better than anyone Rodgers had during his peak. Plus, Andy Reid is a much better offensive mind than McCarthy.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:16 pm to diddlydawg7
Rodgers is certainly the best at being a shitty brother and son
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:39 pm to TheeRealCarolina
YES.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:43 pm to diddlydawg7
Absolutely. Aaron Rodgers should go down in history as better than Brees, and in the conversation for Top 5 NFL QB of all time.
Brees is in the discussion for Top 10.
Brees is in the discussion for Top 10.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:46 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Hell I think Rodgers is better than any QB ever, and Mahomes will be coming to take that title shortly.
I mean, are just going to forget about Brady, Montana and Unitas?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:47 pm to diddlydawg7
Discount Double Check.
Top-5 QB ever.
Top-5 QB ever.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:48 pm to Tigerfan56
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Peak Rodgers is a different level than peak Brees.
I don’t totally agree with that
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:48 pm to diddlydawg7
He played his career in Green Bay not an air conditioned banquet room...so yeah Rodgers.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:52 pm to ragincajun03
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I mean, are just going to forget about Brady, Montana and Unitas?
I wouldn't take any of those guys over Rodgers, and Mahomes is absolutely on pace to be better than all of them
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:13 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Yep
I don't think many Saints fans have a problem conceding that Rodgers is better than Brees
Hell I think Rodgers is better than any QB ever, and Mahomes will be coming to take that title shortly.
In this era for me, Brady/Brees/Manning are mostly interchangeable. Rodgers is a step ahead. Mahomes appears to be another notch ahead of Rodgers, but needs a few more reps to clearly state he's better.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:16 pm to Tigerfan56
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Peak Rodgers is a different level than peak Brees
Peak Brees was pretty damn impressive. Sadly, Peak Brees was wasted with atrocious defenses.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:26 pm to diddlydawg7
Rodgers arm is superior to Brees, but Brees not winning a single MVP makes the award a complete sham. There is no denying that.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 4:34 pm to diddlydawg7
Yes! Brees is James Harden on a football field all stats! 9-8 in postseason
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