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Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:22 pm to The Boat
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10th ballot. If it takes 10 maybe you weren’t supposed to be in what’s now the hall of very good.
I've said it a million times on here. We have waaaaaay too many HOFers. Ichiro is a no doubter. The other two, while really, really good players, are meh.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:44 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Congrats to Ichiro, CC, and Billy, but idk what's dumber: it taking Billy Wagner 10 years to get in, or Ichiro not getting 100% of the vote.
Said it a million times I'll mother fricking say it again. Baseball HOF voters are the dumbest group of cock suckers on the planet. Not even close.
Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will get in next year though.
Said it a million times I'll mother fricking say it again. Baseball HOF voters are the dumbest group of cock suckers on the planet. Not even close.
Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will get in next year though.
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 1/21/25 at 7:54 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Yankees fans claiming Ichiro is like Bucs fans claiming Brady. And I’m a Yanks fan
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:01 pm to msudawg1200
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Ichiro is a no doubter. The other two, while really, really good players, are meh.
Ichiro is no doubt. CC played in that weird era where wins kinda still mattered but you kinda knew they were bullshite.
CC had a really great 5 year run where he was an absolute dog, won a cy young, and pitched a shitload of innings maintaining that level. Teammates and other players love him so not a big surprise.
Wagner idk.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Beltran got over 70%
A Rod only 37.1%
A Rod only 37.1%
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:06 pm to Srbtiger06
It seemed the last half of his career, CC would have to take a three-week vacation every August, because his arm was dead.
But that one year, he absolutely carried the Brewers to the playoffs.
But that one year, he absolutely carried the Brewers to the playoffs.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:07 pm to FightinTigersDammit
will Pete rose or shoeless Joe Jackson ever get in?
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:17 pm to msudawg1200
Closers routinely take a long time to get in. Wagner was better than a lot of closers already in
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:18 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I remember Ken Griffey Jr was 3 shy of 100%. Some voters just don’t deserve the vote.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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CC Sabathia
Shouldn’t be in
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:15 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Ichiro absolutely deserved it
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:37 pm to AlecRock23
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As someone who hasnt watched or know about history of baseball Which players from the steroid eras deserve to be in? I think no brainers are Barry bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemons, manny Ramirez, Sammy Sosa
If we go by the criteria of “can you tell the story of baseball without these guys?” then these guys are in…you absolutely cannot tell the story of baseball without these guys and steroid era shenanigans.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:45 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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1 vote shy of unanimous selection. Ban that voter.
That guy not voting for Ichiro doesn’t mean he thinks he sucks lol… other dudes needed the vote more
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:03 am to Lester Earl
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Closers routinely take a long time to get in. Wagner was better than a lot of closers already in
Better than “a lot”?
Closers in the HoF are:
Mariano Rivera
Trevor Hoffman
Lee Smith
Dennis Eckersley*
Rollie Fingers
Goose Gossage
Bruce Sutter
Hoyt Wilhelm
John Smoltz*
Eck and Smoltz racked up quite a few wins as starters. I think Wagner has better numbers than Sutter. He’s in the mix with Gossage and Fingers, but those guys had some success in the World Series. Fingers anchored the pen for three straight Oakland WS wins.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:50 am to TexasTiger08
Sutter , Goose, and Eck all played in a different “closer” era. They generally pitched 2-3 innings in their role as closer. Wagner pitched in the modern era where one or more set up guys pitched prior to him taking over in the 9th or last out of 8th at earliest.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:23 am to TexasTiger08
quote:I don’t think so. They do it in South America and they’re way poorer than poor Americans. They used to do it in America with no money.
I think that choice is made by circumstances though. Baseball can’t be played solo, and at minimum you need a bat, probably more than one ball, and gloves…unless you are Dominican and prefer the cutout milk carton. Then you need a field, which isn’t readily available in an inner city.
A glove, a bat, and a ball doesn’t cost that much. When I was a kid growing up, I didn’t even play with a real bat and ball most of the time. I did when I went to formal practice, but most of the time me and my brothers were playing wiffle ball in the street or using a tennis ball and playing barehanded.
If you really want to play, you make it work and have fun no matter how you’re doing it.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:51 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Billy Wags had to wait a while
he was very emotional when the MLB guys interviewed him. Cried over half the interview.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:28 am to SulphursFinest
Ricky says Ricky is the greatest lead off man of all time.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 7:29 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:45 am to msudawg1200
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We have waaaaaay too many HOFers.
This is what fans don’t understand.
The Hall of Fame is owned and controlled by the Clark family of Cooperstown, New York. It belongs to them, not to the fans.
To them it’s not a sacred shrine, a Valhalla for the baseball gods. It’s a museum and a tourist attraction.
The people who control the Hall of Fame actually WANT a constant stream of new members into the thing because the annual induction ceremony is essential to the economy of Cooperstown, New York. If that doesn’t happen because nobody gets voted in, the impact is akin to a hurricane taking out tourist shops in Pensacola or Panama City.
The people who control the Hall of Fame were actually pissed off at the writers back in the 1960s and 1970s when they got especially constipated about putting people in, they were secretly cheering Frank Frisch’s Veterans Committee shenanigans.
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