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re: I know it’s cliche, but our best athletes would dominate Soccer.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Who is the American Jan Koller?
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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He is significantly slower than players like Mbappe for example. Different body types are more suited to different sports. At some point, it should click for the once every 4 years nerds that athleticism is not the reason we don't have success.
Jesus Christ man
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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He is significantly slower than players like Mbappe for example.
a. Peak Lebron was not
b. Mbappe isn't a DLP or CAM
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Different body types are more suited to different sports. At some point, it should click for the once every 4 years nerds that athleticism is not the reason we don't have success.
Lebron's physical gifts and mentality are special. The point is that a guy like Lebron doesn't have the physical issues that traditionally prevent tall guys from playing these positions. He's incredibly agile, fast, and coordinated. There is no reason to think he'd be limited at any position on the soccer field physically.
CLEARLY nobody thinks he couldn't play ST, CB, or GK.
There shouldn't be any concern over a pure CDM, either, considering there are lots of guys just barely shorter than him who play the position with inferior athleticism.
So we're talking more like CAM, winger/back, etc. positions.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:23 pm to S
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Who is the American Jan Koller?
I was going to say Robbie Avila but he's too skilled.
I got it.
Roy Hibbert
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
The politards are missing you
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:28 pm to AUFANATL
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I've made the same post for like 20 years and soccer fanbois go bonkers. You don't understand the "beautiful game" blah, blah, blah.
Usain Bolt, the fastest man alive, tried playing pro soccer and sucked.
Raw athleticism isn't really the golden ticket. The US would need a complete culture turnaround, where kids grow up with a soccer ball. The people saying we could throw Tyreek Hill out there with 4 years of training are idiots.
Tyreek Hill growing up with a soccer ball, now that is a different story.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:29 pm to TigahsOnTop
Bolt would’ve sucked at football, baseball, and basketball too
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Lebron's physical gifts and mentality are special
Cool, who says he has special feet?
There is literally no point in conversations like these
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:36 pm to Sun God
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Bolt would’ve sucked at football, baseball, and basketball too
Point well taken (except possibly a lethal kick returner in football)
Baseball guys are some of the least athletic people to be honest (extraordinarily coordinated though).
I think people conflate athleticism and coordination way too much.
LeBron is an insane athlete no doubt, but would be good at baseball? Idk, maybe.
Would he be good at soccer? Idk, maybe. Coordination with your feet is a lot different than hand-eye. But if the US had an enormous sample size and every athlete played soccer, of course we could be one of the best, our population dwarfs most of these countries.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:46 pm to TigahsOnTop
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But if the US had an enormous sample size and every athlete played soccer, of course we could be one of the best, our population dwarfs most of these countries.
Well said
Posted on 7/7/26 at 12:59 pm to Sun God
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His point is if the US trained our best athletes in soccer from elementary school we’d be excellent
Im not sure how anyone could disagree with this. Seems like a pretty simple concept to grasp
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:00 pm to TigahsOnTop
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Would he be good at soccer? Idk, maybe. Coordination with your feet is a lot different than hand-eye. But if the US had an enormous sample size and every athlete played soccer, of course we could be one of the best, our population dwarfs most of these countries.
Somehow you get what every idiot wearing a scarf should.
You can take any of our elite athletes and say “oh well he’s too tall” and then say next man up.
We have hundreds probably thousands of more athletic people playing other sports that translate and for every LeBron who can’t develop the foot skills there will be Patrick Peterson or a Steph curry who dominates if we were to make it a priority.
As I said earlier. We have the third largest population and our citizens dominate the two larger countries in almost every other athletic endeavor.
We only need 11.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:01 pm to WestCoastAg
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its almost like imagine a world where we are able to combine the two. crazy
The entire premise of this argument is a pure athletic boost ALONE would push the US to the top.
The problem is the CURRENT US players are not getting the level of technical ability other nations get DESPITE being PLENTY athletic enough.
You are literally adding nothing by adding more athlete without MORE technical ability.
The US doesnt need more athletes, it needs more TECHNICAL ability. The US lacks in technical ability alone against European and South American teams.
Taking current US technical ability and giving it to the best US athletes would not improve the team much. Aside from that, soccer ability peaks in much different types of athletes.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:01 pm to SOBmustpay
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Im not sure how anyone could disagree with this. Seems like a pretty simple concept to grasp
It's essentially saying if we were good at soccer, we'd be good at soccer. Ok. Great. We aren't, because we do not currently have teh ability to develop technically sound players. The "our best athletes" mantra every 4 years is ignorant and pointless.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The entire premise of this argument is a pure athletic boost ALONE would push the US to the top.
The problem is the CURRENT US players are not getting the level of technical ability other nations get DESPITE being PLENTY athletic enough.
You are literally adding nothing by adding more athlete without MORE technical ability.
The US doesnt need more athletes, it needs more TECHNICAL ability. The US lacks in technical ability alone against European and South American teams.
Taking current US technical ability and giving it to the best US athletes would not improve the team much. Aside from that, soccer ability peaks in much different types of athletes.
All of this.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:04 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The entire premise of this argument is a pure athletic boost ALONE would push the US to the top.
No the entire premise of the argument is we have superior athletes who could easily develop those skills in the right environment.
We are not genetically inferior and unable to develop soccer skills.
We just don’t care to on a mass level.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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The "our best athletes" mantra every 4 years is ignorant and pointless.
Most of those repeating this idiocy are too inundated with NFL draft combine talent analysis.
Even more, there's tons and tons of pure physical specimens that were utter failures in professional sports despite getting all the attention from scouts and going through every primo training program there is.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:06 pm to Adam Banks
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who could easily develop those skills
You still don't get it. It's not easy. If it was, we'd have done it already. quote:
We are not genetically inferior and unable to develop soccer skills.
The genetics aren't the issue. At some point this has to click for yall, right?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:06 pm to WestCoastAg
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just insane to see how much gaslighting is going on when it comes to this Norwegian dude. He literally is the point and it's still "nah"
You can’t use Haaland he’s the only one that could ever do that1!1!1!1!!111
Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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At some point, it should click for the once every 4 years nerds that athleticism is not the reason we don't have success.
At some point you will realize that we arent saying it is solely athleticism that would advance America. It is the extremepy huge talent pool of very (but not elite) athletic guys that would be perfect soccer players if they played fro. Youth. Instead, those guys finish their careers in FCS football or Single A baseball and get a regular job.
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