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re: I know it’s cliche, but our best athletes would dominate Soccer.

Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:28 pm to
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There are soccer nerds arguing about technical skill which is legitimately the entire point that WCA postulated

Anyone who thinks we could get 11 NFL players together and they’d crush everyone in soccer is a dumbass

These threads are hilarious


This thread has devolved into the rhetoric style of the poli board.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:28 pm to
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We do produce technically sound players, though

Pulisic starts for Milan
Wes starts for Juventus
Tillman starts for Leverkusen
Balo starts for Monaco
Adams anchors Bomo in the EPL

etc.


This is far better than in years past but still not good enough. It doesnt even compare to a lot of the better teams in the cups final 32, not even top 10.


For instance, AC Milan, while a good club, isnt really in the top 15 clubs in the world.

Man City
Arsenal
Barcelona
Madrid
Bayern
Liverpool
Man Utd
Aston Villa
PSG
Inter
Benfica
Sporting CP
Atletico Madrid

Maybe not even top 20.

They are a far cry from their Kaka and Schevchenko days.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:28 pm to
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Still think its pure athletic ability and NOTHING else?


Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:29 pm to
Two sides arguing two different points

Glad lnch is back
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:31 pm to
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This is far better than in years past but still not good enough.


Well, yeah, this generation didn't even come up in the MLS academy era and is the first one to really get embraced by Europe as a finishing school. This is the first generation to shed the anti-American bias of the past.

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. It doesnt even compare to a lot of the better teams in the cups final 32, not even top 10.

The USNT is currently in the 12-20 range, probably around 15.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:32 pm to
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Two sides arguing two different points

Glad lnch is back


They're creating a strawman and then to attack the strawman, relying on dishonesty in describing our current technical ability.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:46 pm to
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You" who? We do not have the capability to train to elite technical levels currently. Who is doing this mythical training?




The entire premise of this thread is an alternative reality where soccer was emphasized like football or basketball in the US.


In said reality our current sports owners would build programs like Europe.





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We have good genes and athletes already. We lack skill. How many times do you morons need it explained to you?




How many times do you have to have it explained to you that the premise of this thread is not to train Lebron in the couple months leading up to the World Cup.


It’s if LeBron (and using LeBron basically as a stand in as an elite American athlete) and a few others dedicated themselves to soccer we’d be winning world cups.


And you seem to think even with dedicated development the US is genetically inferior to euros in this one particular skill.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:51 pm to
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It’s if LeBron (and using LeBron basically as a stand in as an elite American athlete) and a few others dedicated themselves to soccer we’d be winning world cups.

We have Antonio Freemans son Alex on the team who spent his entire life playing soccer.

He plays right defense, one of westcoastags examples of positions that our incredible us athletes would be a huge advantage. He still isnt even close to a top 50 right back in the world and wouldn't even make the roster for spain/france/england/morocco

Hakimi is the best right back in the world

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:56 pm to
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We already do that genius. Half the US team speaks in a British accent.
And those players already had a connection to the United States

i'm saying that we create a connection to the United States


Are you telling me that the United States soccer has been offering green cards to people that have no connection to the United states in order to get them here to play soccer
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:57 pm to
WCAs first post ITT literally mentioned the fact that we’d be great if soccer was the first priority once kids could walk
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:59 pm to
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Real Madrid and Barcelona have had the best youth setups since the 90s and Spain has still only finished with 1 world cup as a result.


Barcelona sure. But that’s not really Madrid’s model. Also a lot of those youth are coming from South American countries historically so they’re not all playing for Spain.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:11 pm to
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but this thread works under the assumption that it would be the primary funded sport in America.


No, this thread clearly is about our best athletes choosing soccer. The genes aren't the issue. We do this every four, and you dumbasses never stop. Yall are causals that refuse to listen to people that actually follow the sport.
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That is asinine.


Oh look at that, you got something right.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:12 pm to
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The entire premise of this thread is an alternative reality where soccer was emphasized like football or basketball in the US.




If we ere good, we'd be good. Great thread. See yall in 2030
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:15 pm to
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If we ere good, we'd be good. Great thread. See yall in 2030

Now there’s the brilliant insight and wisdom of a dude who probably played soccer for 4 years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:18 pm to
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We have Antonio Freemans son Alex on the team who spent his entire life playing soccer.

He plays right defense, one of westcoastags examples of positions that our incredible us athletes would be a huge advantage. He still isnt even close to a top 50 right back in the world and wouldn't even make the roster for spain/france/england/morocco


Antonio Freeman's son isn't Lebron.

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Hakimi is the best right back in the world

And one of his most important assets is his speed
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:21 pm to
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No, this thread clearly is about our best athletes choosing soccer. The genes aren't the issue. We do this every four, and you dumbasses never stop. Yall are causals that refuse to listen to people that actually follow the sport.


You don't get to jump in here and dictate what this thread was about. It absolutely was based on the premise that America as a whole went "all in" on soccer; and therefore, it is NOT only about superior athletics. It is about the total athletic pool in combination with the assumption of elite coaching.

And no one gives a shite that you are some self proclaimed expert on soccer while the rest of us are bumbling idiots. You sound like a doofus.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:25 pm to
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See yall in 2030


Exactly, the entire country cares about this sport once every four years, and we are top 10-20 in the world.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:25 pm to
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You don't get to jump in here and dictate what this thread was about.


You're right, the thread title and OP do that.
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And no one gives a shite that you are some self proclaimed expert on soccer while the rest of us are bumbling idiots. You sound like a doofus.


Oh no, the causal world cup viewer that knows how to fix soccer thinks I'm dumb. whatever will I doooooooooo?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:28 pm to
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You don't get to jump in here and dictate what this thread was about. It absolutely was based on the premise that America as a whole went "all in" on soccer; and therefore, it is NOT only about superior athletics. It is about the total athletic pool in combination with the assumption of elite coaching.

Or at least the same level of coaching until they go to Europe for finishing.

Our current skill level/ability with NBA size and athleticism would transform the team and be something soccer has never seen. Would it put us past Spain/France consistently? Probably not, but we'd probably get into that next tier.

The defense alone would be unfathomable. Imagine a bunch of 6-6, stronger versions of Ream/Richards and faster/stronger FBs than Dest/Robinson....and probably a 7-ft + keeper with a massive wingspan and faster-twitch muscles. In front of them would be a faster/stronger Tyler Adams that is 6-4 or taller, instead of 5-9.

Literally take our guys and their skills/flaws and just make them the "NBA athleticism" (with a haircut for the aerobic/anaerobic issues I discussed earlier) version.

They are arguing THAT wouldn't be a scary arse team.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:36 pm to
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Or at least the same level of coaching until they go to Europe for finishing.


Sure, identify the kids by 10 years old and send them off. Fine. If this happened with all of the Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, and Dylan Crews type athletes in the US...
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