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re: How should the Astros build this next offseason?

Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:23 pm to
Trade Ken Giles to the Phillies for Vincent Velazquez, Mark Appel, Brett Olberholtzer, and Thomas Eshelman IMO FWIW
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:26 pm to
And then move Gomez to setup man. He does throw 103 mph.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

find a #1 starter first and foremost .


This joke isn't all that funny so you should probably cut it out

Your understanding of MLB baserunning rules, however, is
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:39 pm to
go find someone else to troll, Lou.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:45 pm to
Please don't melt, Les. Stay strong.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25264 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:53 pm to
Every team could use 1 more starter and reliever, but as far as positional players go, the Astros need a catcher that they can count on to give them a QAB, or at the very least, make contact.

Castro's struggles offensively far outweigh any advantages he might give you defensively. When Hank Conger can carry you to the playoffs down the stretch throwing out 1 of 37 base stealers and hit .200, I would have assumed this past off season would have addressed this position, but Castro is back for the sole purpose of being my whipping boy, I guess.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:57 pm to
as someone that melts after every Astro loss, you cant play that card, mate
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Every team could use 1 more starter and reliever, but as far as positional players go, the Astros need a catcher that they can count on to give them a QAB, or at the very least, make contact.


Tyler Heineman is in line to be that guy next season. He is not going to hit for power but he's a switch hitter who makes contact. He could be a good partner for Gattis, who is not staying if he is not catching.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23706 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
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key free agents are rasmus, gomez, feldman and fister.

I stopped here. Seriously
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

as someone that melts after every Astro loss, you cant play that card, mate


quote:

Liar Earl


Look mate, make up stuff all you want. You seem to have good practice in doing that with the MLB rulebook. But no one is buying what you're selling my friend.

This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:04 pm to
well dumping velazquez for giles isnt looking too good right now. We could have used a nice arm in the rotation. Even Mchugh has 35 wins or whatever the last 2 years, he's trash. If we're ever really going to be a contender we need 2-3 very good starters. We have 1 right now, The problem is have you seen the list of giant turds available this offseason in the starting pitching market???? Let me enlighten you

LINK

Here is the top 10 based off this years salaries

C.J. Wilson SP 35 LAA TBD $20,500,000 UFA
Jered Weaver SP 33 LAA TBD $20,200,000 UFA
Brett Anderson SP 28 LAD TBD $15,800,000 UFA
John Danks SP 31 CHW TBD $15,750,000 UFA
Jake Peavy SP 34 SF TBD $15,000,000 UFA
Jorge De La Rosa SP 35 COL TBD $12,500,000 UFA
R.A. Dickey SP 41 TOR TBD $12,000,000 UFA
Hisashi Iwakuma SP 35 SEA TBD $11,000,000 UFA
Stephen Strasburg SP 27 WSH TBD $10,400,000 UFA
Edinson Volquez SP 32 KC TBD $9,500,000 UFA
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40826 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

IMO they should wait longer than 13 games before planning all the moves for next offseason


the ryno virus has spread. Honestly I think we should clean house and hire #theprocess. Time to retank
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3238 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:48 pm to
Talk about a dumb arse trade at this point. We could have shipped Bregman and an arm for Giles. Instead we send them a 5 man fricking rotation. Smh
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63764 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

We could have shipped Bregman and an arm for Giles.


Or we could have not traded for him

Still though it's 13 games
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3238 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:51 pm to
I'd take Strasburg and Volquez at those prices.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3238 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:53 pm to
I hated the trade. Appel wasn't going to be a #1, but in all honesty we just needed him to be a great #3 or #4. Kuechal, McCullers and McHugh are good enough to get to the playoffs.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63764 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 3:12 pm to
At worst Appel could have helped in the pen. I wasn't a huge fan of the deal at the time but kind of talked myself into it after. It could end up looking really bad
Posted by Warheel
Member since Aug 2011
2306 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:53 pm to
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deal Bregs for a starting pitcher


We could have drafted Rodon (I know the Boras aspect) instead of Bregman but how nice would it be to have a power lefty in the rotation right now?

Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3238 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:34 pm to
Same can be said about Appel. We could have had Chris Bryant.
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