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re: How many current NFL players are HOF locks?

Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:43 pm to
i dont even think ward is a HOFer to be honest

but the media LOVES him and he has better numbers than swann and stallworth, so whatevs
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19887 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:45 pm to
Ward is a Super Bowl MVP and will have been in 3 now. I think that will help his case.

And even though he's not in yet, Carter is a lock.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:46 pm to
Agreed, but the media and the town you play make a huge difference. More obvious in baseball where guys like Willie Mays and Hank Aaron got a lower percentage of votes than Cal Ripken and Tom Seaver.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11601 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:46 pm to
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You are mad...

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:47 pm to
Hines Ward
#19 receiving touchdowns
#8 Receptions
#21 Receiving Yards


another season like this past one he moves into Top 15 yards, Top 7 receptions, and Top 10 touchdowns... I think he eventually gets in
This post was edited on 1/23/11 at 11:49 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:48 pm to
yea yea yea i know, he's gonna get in

his 8-12 yard catches and falling on the ground and his crack back blocks on unsuspecting defenders isnt overly impressive in my mind. i also dont think you could ever say that he was the best WR in football, shite maybe not even top 5, i think that counts for something
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19239 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:49 pm to
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Sorry I have a life outside of following every fricking thread on TD and watching the NFL like a fantasy football nerd.


I love this argument for being totally wrong on something that is a relatively easy discussion to have. Don't post on a sports message board if you don't follow sports.
Posted by AUfan87
The Yellow Brick Road
Member since Nov 2010
583 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:50 pm to
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i dont even think ward is a HOFer to be honest




TIMEOUT! Did I just read that right? Dude, you're talking about a guy that has won multiple Super Bowls, a SB MVP and is the franchise's all-time leading receiver with more yards and catches than JOHN STALLWORTH AND LYNN SWANN COMBINED, who, by the way, are two Hall of Famers in their own right!!

Ward not a HOF...
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31255 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:50 pm to
It is basically a crime that Carter is still not in. Arguably the second best receiver, but Moss and/or TO may have eclipsed him.
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19887 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:51 pm to
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his crack back blocks on unsuspecting defenders isnt overly impressive in my mind.
Maybe not, but he gets a ton of press from them.

quote:

dont think you could ever say that he was the best WR in football, shite maybe not even top 5, i think that counts for something

Definitely was never the best. Probably not top 3. I couldn't say top 5 without seeing stats or something and I don't feel like looking all those years up.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
9192 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:51 pm to
I like Hines Ward but he has zero chance of getting in the hall of fame.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290823 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:52 pm to
Hines is kind of a compiler. Never once would I consider him one of the top 3-5 WRs in the NFL during his career.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:52 pm to
just my opinion, he doesnt pass the eyeball test i dont think

he's gonna get in, but he's the ultimate "meh" candidate if you ask me
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56285 posts
Posted on 1/23/11 at 11:54 pm to
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is the franchise's all-time leading receiver with more yards and catches than JOHN STALLWORTH AND LYNN SWANN COMBINED, who, by the way, are two Hall of Famers in their own right!!




It's not really fair to compare stats of WRs who played in completely different eras.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:13 am to
Vinatieri's in imo.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:16 am to
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Hines is kind of a compiler. Never once would I consider him one of the top 3-5 WRs in the NFL during his career.


I think Donald Driver falls into that category as well. It's too bad he was kinda dinged up this year.


Here's Hines Ward's stats for comparison.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36745 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:18 am to
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DBG


hates uga.

the only two people you bitched about in this thread are champ bailey and hines ward.

i think they both get in. champ is a lock and hines is a probably.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:19 am to
i didnt bitch about bailey you putz, i was defending him
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36745 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:20 am to
frick me that was cunninglinguist

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DBG




Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10886 posts
Posted on 1/24/11 at 12:21 am to
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Never once would I consider him one of the top 3-5 WRs in the NFL during his career


this

he had a really good career, but if not for his team he wouldn't even be considered. He was never as good as TO, Moss, Harrison, Holt in the early 2000s. And no where near guys like Andre Johnson, Fitz, Wayne, etc at the end of the decade. 2002 is the only year you could make a case that he was a top 5 WR.
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