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re: How long will it take Eli Manning to get into the HOF?

Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:38 am to
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
7965 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:38 am to
He probably could have worse numbers and get in simply because he’s a Manning. NFL loves that family.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24830 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:43 am to
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He made All-Pro 0 times. Neither first nor second team.

Based on the era he played, his yards don't matter.

His completion % is that of someone who played in the dead ball era TBH, the 1970's when passing was brutal. He has roughly the same completion % of Ken Stabler while playing in the pass-happy no defense allowed, can't touch the QB or WRs era.

He won a SB against supposedly the greatest offense of all-time in the 2007 Patriots because his defense held them to 14 points.

If the committee had any honor, they wouldn't let him in. But they'll wait about 5 years and then he'll get in.


Agree with all of that.

Being named to the pro-bowl did used to mean something, but that meaning ended probably 15-20 years ago. Being named All-Pro is a much better measure, because it means for QB, you were Top 2 (or Top 3 if maybe someone got shafted) at your position for at least that year.

Heck, even Mark Rypien was at least 2nd team All-Pro in '91. Eli Manning never had a single season where he played that much above his peers to be given that distinction.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:17 am to
I could see him having to wait a while. He's one of the worst players every to be in the conversation for the HoF, and he has a bunch of his contemporaries lining right up behind him (Brees, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brady) who by comparison make him look like the mediocre player he was.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:31 am to
He’ll be a first ballot hall of famer since they changed the voting rules
Under the new guidelines there will be 5 modern-era inductees selected in each of the next four years of annual voting

Older players and coaches that were normally in their vote will be moved into different pools now, meaning they won’t be taking away votes from the modern players

He also won’t have a packed class when it’s his time to be voted, I think Luke Kuechly and Adam Vinatieri are the only player that will be up for eligibility that year.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89444 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:33 am to
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He’ll be a first ballot hall of famer since they changed the voting rules


Sad day.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30905 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:53 am to
Namath was terrible stats wise. .he had a cannon though
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21141 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:02 am to
It should take literally forever since he doesn't deserve it.

I say second Ballot however
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35451 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:22 am to
Namath was a New York player with a New York personality. Plus, he had what is still probably the most significant victory in Super Bowl history. Add to that, he was the first to post 4,000 yards in a season. Namath was getting in no matter if he truly deserved it or not.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16639 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:23 am to
I think he gets in based on his last name and his 2 Superbowl runs.

But comparing him to his 2 main contemporaries he came into the league with, he is easily the worst between him, Ben, and Phillip.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30905 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:44 am to
Guys, hes not getting in on the first ballot,just not happening. Go look at the first ballot hof list
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19147 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:15 am to
Hopefully never. He has no business even sniffing the HOF
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12064 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:24 am to
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irst ballot because he played in New York and beat Brady.


Not saying it’s right.



And his last name won't hurt. Being a #1 overall pick, long career with one team, and his brother being a top 5 all timer. He'll get in but it would be interesting to see if he was a joe blow mid round pick without the Manning name and had the same career. I think he'd be thought of as a Trent Dilfer type QB with some clutch performances in big games.

Should not be ranked ahead of guys like Michael Vick or Phillip Rivers but QBs are judged so much on superbowls that he will be.

This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3644 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:28 am to
Should he get no?

No, not even close. He's behind Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Warner, Favre, Wilson in just his era/overlapping era's

I'm sure he will get in but it's undeserved
Posted by tigers25
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2020
2158 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:05 am to
Played against him in high school basketball for 4 years. He was a whiny pussy bitch back then lol
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213341 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:41 am to
First QB ever to throw for 4000 yards in a season...... but IMO Griese is the one that puzzles me... sure he won two SB’S , but he was on some serious stacked teams. In his second SB game he only three 7 passes.... and the year before when the Dolphins went unbeaten he was out most of the year.......
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19147 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:59 am to
quote:

He's behind Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Warner, Favre, Wilson in just his era/overlapping era's
Romo, Vick and McNabb too
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4074 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:09 am to
He probably shouldn't be but he has some of the biggest highlights on the biggest stage.

He stopped an undefeated Patriots team. The Tyree play in SB 43 and the Manningham play in SB 46 are all time great Super Bowl plays.

That's why he'll get in because more people remember that stuff than him throwing a bunch of interceptions in the middle of some season they went 7-9.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21481 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:11 am to
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He beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl. Had a damn good career. Not many qbs can make some of the badass throws he made under the biggest of pressure.


This...should be easy selection
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213341 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:13 am to
You are stupid.....
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Played against him in high school basketball for 4 years. He was a whiny pussy bitch back then lol



LMAO
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