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re: How long will it take Eli Manning to get into the HOF?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:44 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:44 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
First ballot, guaranteed.
He’s got twice as many NFC championships as Brady!!!!
He’s got twice as many NFC championships as Brady!!!!
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:45 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Eli does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. He basically Trent Dilfer'ed his way to two SB wins.
If two SB gets you in the Hall then why is Jim Plunkett not in?
Family name. If his name was Eli Plunkett, we don’t have this conversation.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:09 pm to slackster
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He probably gets in but he’ll immediately be the worst QB in the hall relative to his peers.
Do you even Joe Namath bro?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:22 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
I agree that his stats aren't the greatest, but those 2 Super Bowl runs where he beat the Patriots weren't a fluke. People get into the Hall of Fame for less than that. His accomplishments were notable and we're sitting here talking about him. He's more than a foot note or also ran. Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame? Because he guaranteed a Super Bowl win in SB III and he delivered. His career was pretty pedestrian otherwise.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:33 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Ideally never
0 All-Pro teams
1 season Top 5 at his position (2011)
.500 as a starter (117-117)
1.5 TD/INT ratio
60.3% completion
7.0 YPA
84.1 career rating
He doesn't even have a strong case for the Hall of Very Good. It's an embarrassment that he'd be considered for the Hall of Fame.
0 All-Pro teams
1 season Top 5 at his position (2011)
.500 as a starter (117-117)
1.5 TD/INT ratio
60.3% completion
7.0 YPA
84.1 career rating
He doesn't even have a strong case for the Hall of Very Good. It's an embarrassment that he'd be considered for the Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:06 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Second ballot at best. Maybe longer should be longer. But the NFL HOF is easiest for QB’s
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:16 pm to STEVED00
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Eli was a good NFL QB that went on a couple nice playoff runs. He should not be in the HOF
You can argue he wasn’t even that good.
His QB rating for his career is 84.1, the exact same as Joe Flacco, and worse than Sam Bradford, Matt Schaub, and Jay Cutler. That’s 4 very average QBs that played at the same time as Eli. Not just the same era, but their careers coincided with Eli’s.
Tony Romo was another contemporary of Eli. Romo won 61% of his games, and has a 97.1 QB rating.
Eli’s winning percentage was 11 points lower than Romo’s, and his QB rating was 13 points lower. But was Eli a much better QB in the playoffs?
Playoffs:
Romo: 4/1 TD/Int ratio
93 rating
Eli: 2/1 TD/Int ratio
87 rating
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:27 pm to rondo
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He probably gets in but he’ll immediately be the worst QB in the hall relative to his peers.
Do you even Joe Namath bro?
Namath isn’t his peer.
Relative to their peers, Namath led the league in passing yards 3 times and was top 5 6 times. Top 5 in TDs 7 times, passer rating 4 times, and passing yds per game 7 times. 5 pro bowls and 1x all pro.
Eli? Top 5 in yards 3x, never higher than 4th. 4x top 5 in TDs, never top 5 in passer rating and only a single season top 10, and 1x top 5 TDs per game. 4 pro bowls, never all pro.
Yeah, Eli is substantially worse than Namath relative to his peers.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:34 pm to slackster
Imagine that he doesn’t have a brother named Peyton.
Now look at his numbers and accolades.
Still think he’s a no brain shoe in?
Now look at his numbers and accolades.
Still think he’s a no brain shoe in?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 9:36 pm to AlaTiger
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Why is Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame? Because he guaranteed a Super Bowl win in SB III and he delivered. His career was pretty pedestrian otherwise.
I’m also on the Namath is overrated vs the way history/the media views him, but he was also the first ever to throw for 4,000 yards in a season. That was a significant accomplishment. He was also All Pro once and had several pro bowl selections (back when being named to the pro bowl actually meant something). I’d venture to say for 2 or 3 seasons he was regarded as a Top 3 or Top 5 QB in the league.
I’m not sure Eli Manning has even one season under his belt where he was overwhelmingly considered at least a Top 5 QB.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:12 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
First ballot
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:04 pm to slackster
quote:
Namath isn’t his peer.
Jim Plunkett is
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:01 am to Jeb Busch Lite
Eli is Joe Flacco with two clutch playoff runs as opposed to one.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:16 am to Jeb Busch Lite
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How long will it take Eli Manning to get into the HOF?
A quick google search shows the HOF is open 9A-5P 7 days a week. If he buys his ticket online, he could probably get in as soon as the doors open.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 3:08 am to Jeb Busch Lite
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He went to 4 pro bowls in 15 years
Things people shouldn't care about.
He made All-Pro 0 times. Neither first nor second team.
Based on the era he played, his yards don't matter.
His completion % is that of someone who played in the dead ball era TBH, the 1970's when passing was brutal. He has roughly the same completion % of Ken Stabler while playing in the pass-happy no defense allowed, can't touch the QB or WRs era.
He won a SB against supposedly the greatest offense of all-time in the 2007 Patriots because his defense held them to 14 points.
If the committee had any honor, they wouldn't let him in. But they'll wait about 5 years and then he'll get in.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 3:09 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:15 am to Jeb Busch Lite
If he did the exact same thing for Tampa Bay or Detroit he doesn't even sniff Canton. But, he played in New York so we'll just accept this farce.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:19 am to Jeb Busch Lite
I personally think he's not HOF worthy, but his numbers are similar in his era relative to his peers numbers as Joe Namath's were in his and he won two Super Bowl's two to Joe's one (though like Joe's the defense had as much or more to do with his SB wins) and he played in New York so he's getting in. May take a couple of times through though.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:25 am to Jeb Busch Lite
He didn’t have a HOF career, stats wise, but he was in NY and won 2 SBs. I think he gets in similar to Namath.
Are there any QBs with 2+ SB wins not in the HOF?
Are there any QBs with 2+ SB wins not in the HOF?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:38 am to ehidal1
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Are there any QBs with 2+ SB wins not in the HOF?
Jim Plunkett.
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