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re: How long will it take before Mahomes is considered the best ever?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Brady was a spectator for that first Super Bowl
The Super Bowl MVP was a spectator? Lulz
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
Holy shite that’s insane
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to lsufball19
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How many seasons would he need to do that?
Career stats so far
Mahomes
66%—303 yards/g—2.4 tds/g—0.6 int/g—105.2 rating
Brady
64%—266 yards/g—1.94 tds/g—0.6 int/g—97.2 rating
I don’t see Mahomes ever playing that bad for that many years to dip as low as Brady
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
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Tom Brady’s best ever single season
68%—300 yards/g—3.125 tds/g—0.5 ints/g—117.2 rating
Brady had 312 ypg, completed 68% of his passes, averaged 2.6 TDs/gm, and had a 102.1 rating LAST YEAR. Game is a little different now wouldn't you say?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
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How long will it take before Mahomes is considered the best ever?
I guess that depends on who you (or anyone else) considers the best ever.
If it's Tom Brady - then I'd have to think you have to see consistent top-tier play for 20 years. I don't know what I'd trade for that. Consider this:
Tom Brady was the primary starter for 21 seasons, Mahomes just finished his 5th season.
In Brady's 21st season as a starter, at the age of 45 - he was 3rd in the league in passing yards, 1st in completions, 8th in completion percentage, 8th in TDs, and won a division title (in a weak division, yes).
That was at the age of 45 years old.
Brady made it to the Super Bowl in 10 of 21 seasons. That's just silly.
The odds are that Mahomes doesn't play until he's 45.
Is it fair to say he's had the best "first 5 years" in history? Sure. But he's far away from GOAT, despite being on track to get there.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm to IAmNERD
Take a gander at those stats and get back to me 
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm to Upperdecker
For sure HOF. Terrell Davis is in the HOF.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm to lsufball19
quote:He threw 1 TD during an entire playoff stretch early on.
Brady won 3 rings in his first 4 as a starter
Mahomes, at the same point in their careers, is WAY more advanced, important to team success, and better than Brady.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm to lsupride87
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I don’t see Mahomes ever playing that bad for that many years to dip as low as Brady
I broke it down for you. Can Mahomes average 5000 yards and 35 TDs over the next 13 years? Because that's what he'll need to do to pass Brady's records.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:01 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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get back to me
Don't think I have anything further to someone who claims the Super Bowl MVP was a non factor...
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:01 pm to lsufball19
Longevity records are pretty meh too
Unless you think Favre was better than Montana
Unless you think Favre was better than Montana
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:02 pm to IAmNERD
quote:brady was a non factor in the entire playoffs his first year. He was a warm body
Don't think I have anything further to someone who claims the Super Bowl MVP was a non factor...
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:02 pm to IAmNERD
He threw one TD in the ENTIRE PLAYOFF RUN
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:03 pm to IAmNERD
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How do you figure?
quote:By not using this to judge QBs
PH has 2 titles in his first 5 years. Brady was drafted in 2000 and won titles in '02 and '04.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:04 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Mahomes, at the same point in their careers, is WAY more advanced, important to team success, and better than Brady.
The game is much different now than it was when Brady was a 2nd year player. Brady led the league in TDs in his third year with 28. 28 TDs would have been good enough for 7th in the NFL this year. In his 5th year starting, where Mahomes is right now, Brady was 3rd in MVP voting with 4110 yards and 26 TDs. He basically had a season marginally worse than Kirk Cousins had this season. Comparing raw passing numbers from now to 20 years ago is a fools errand if you're actually trying to compare two players.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:06 pm to lsufball19
I compare how you look against your peers. Mahomes easily has been the best Qb to me the last 5 years overall.
Rodgers, to me, looked like the best QB during Brady’s prime overall
Rodgers, to me, looked like the best QB during Brady’s prime overall
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:06 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Longevity records are pretty meh too
Well, pride posed that exact argument, though. I'm just responding to it.
This is what he posted
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He is actually on pace to blow Brady out the water in pretty much every single passing category
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:07 pm to lsufball19
quote:And I am factually correct. Mahomes pace is far ahead of Brady. It isn’t even close actually
This is what he posted
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:09 pm to Stonehog
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Don’t forget biggest helmet in NFL history
That title goes to Wes Welker
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
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brady was a non factor in the entire playoffs his first year
MVP
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