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How long until major college football is just openly a minor league?
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:15 am
1 The student-athlete moniker has been an absolute farce for football and basketball at major schools for about 30 years. I realize this is still a reality at the majority of schools though.
2 There's no reason to force these dudes to be in school to begin with. A guy doesn't want to be in class and only wants to play football shouldn't be forced to take college chemistry to play football.
3 Now that they can get paid by third parties, staying in school as long as you want is economically viable.
4 The NCAA has increasingly less enforcement power with every passing year, to the point where major college football soon will have no reason to have them at all.
So if the schools don't need them to be athletes and the athletes don't want to be students, the fans keep watching either way, and the players can get paid by collectives as long as they're in school, is there any reason to doubt that at some point major college football programs will just toss the NCAA, drop the student-athlete facade, and players will start having 10-15 year careers with their schools?
2 There's no reason to force these dudes to be in school to begin with. A guy doesn't want to be in class and only wants to play football shouldn't be forced to take college chemistry to play football.
3 Now that they can get paid by third parties, staying in school as long as you want is economically viable.
4 The NCAA has increasingly less enforcement power with every passing year, to the point where major college football soon will have no reason to have them at all.
So if the schools don't need them to be athletes and the athletes don't want to be students, the fans keep watching either way, and the players can get paid by collectives as long as they're in school, is there any reason to doubt that at some point major college football programs will just toss the NCAA, drop the student-athlete facade, and players will start having 10-15 year careers with their schools?
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:16 am to Thundercles
About 20 years ago
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:19 am to Thundercles
It basically is a minor league with NIL.
And they're getting paid better than MLB.
And they're getting paid better than MLB.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:23 am to Thundercles
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2 There's no reason to force these dudes to be in school to begin with. A guy doesn't want to be in class and only wants to play football shouldn't be forced to take college chemistry to play football.
Fine.
There's also no reason for them to have the name of said university on their jersey either. They should have ZERO affiliation to a school if this is the route.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:24 am to Thundercles
In 5 to 10 years we’ll have a Major College Football League (MCFL) comprised of the B1G and SEC with about 40 teams between the 2 of them, to do their own thing basically away from the NCAA umbrella.
The rest of college football will evolve into a minor league of sorts. The rest of college sports will maintain some level of amateurism and more reasonable conference alignments.
The rest of college football will evolve into a minor league of sorts. The rest of college sports will maintain some level of amateurism and more reasonable conference alignments.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:25 am to Thundercles
What you described at the end sounds horrible.
Shockingly, these players create a lot of value for themselves by attending class for 3-4 years and earning a degree.
I know this flies in the face of the current cultural narrative surrounding college athletics in general, and CFB in particular, but it’s still true.
Shockingly, these players create a lot of value for themselves by attending class for 3-4 years and earning a degree.
I know this flies in the face of the current cultural narrative surrounding college athletics in general, and CFB in particular, but it’s still true.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:26 am to Thundercles
I would like to know how long the NCAA can enforce the 4 year eligibility rule. I think when that gets challenged in court, it will fall too.
Then you could conceivably have some players playing 7-10 years who are getting paid a nice sum but still aren’t good enough for the NBA. All they would need to do is be enrolled in the college taking some course
Then you could conceivably have some players playing 7-10 years who are getting paid a nice sum but still aren’t good enough for the NBA. All they would need to do is be enrolled in the college taking some course
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:26 am to TejasHorn
And it will be absolutely horrible and ruin the essence of college football.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:27 am to VirgilCaine
Attending class? They don't fricking attend class anymore. That shite went out the window with NIL.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:27 am to Thundercles
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2 There's no reason to force these dudes to be in school to begin with. A guy doesn't want to be in class and only wants to play football shouldn't be forced to take college chemistry to play football.
Except everywhere isn’t the same. If you can keep one class of universities playing just themselves to level the playing field that’s what needs to be done.
Otherwise if LSU does one thing and someone else does actually have legit students, they shouldn’t be expected to play each other for a common championship
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:28 am to GREENHEAD22
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Attending class? They don't fricking attend class anymore. That shite went out the window with NIL.
Right, and players that do not attend class are not creating that same value for themselves.
The point still stands - many of these players are the first generation in their family to attend college. Finishing a degree creates immense value for many of these players. The ones who opt out and do not attend class miss out on that value.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:30 am to Thundercles
At the end result of this, I would rather watch the NFL than a half-arse minor league.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:31 am to VirgilCaine
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Shockingly, these players create a lot of value for themselves by attending class for 3-4 years and earning a degree.
The majority do. Probably 95% of schools. For the 5% where football is all business, why force them to go to school?
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:33 am to chalmetteowl
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Except everywhere isn’t the same. If you can keep one class of universities playing just themselves to level the playing field that’s what needs to be done.
This is exactly what I described. Major college football - the top 25-40 teams - just detaching football from academics and then everyone else can still play student athlete.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:34 am to Thundercles
Everyone projects the top QB and WR 5 star life on all football players…its not like that for 99.5% of the players. NIL is good, the transfer portal is good…you just have to let it be. Most football players want an education.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:35 am to Thundercles
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Major college football - the top 25-40 teams - just detaching football from academics and then everyone else can still play student athlete.
How about instead those who don’t want to play student athlete can start up their own minor league? Zero reason for them to be allowed to benefit from having a university’s name on their chest if they really don’t want to attend said school.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:38 am to wildtigercat93
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About 20 years ago
More like 70-80
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:46 am to Thundercles
Still a lot of players that will never sniff professional level in their sport
What’s crazy is Caleb Williams living in a better house than college professors
What’s crazy is Caleb Williams living in a better house than college professors
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:48 am to Thundercles
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The majority do. Probably 95% of schools. For the 5% where football is all business, why force them to go to school?
Guys going to Alabama or LSU still create a lot of value by attending class and graduating with a degree from their respective school.
In fact, most players on those two rosters will not have a 10+ year career in the NFL. Someone else mentioned this but most CFB players in the SEC or BIG are playing football for the education.
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:48 am to Wally Sparks
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At the end result of this, I would rather watch the NFL than a half-arse minor league.
Speaking as someone who has season tickets, has travelled to many bowls and road games and basically marked the fall based on college football I’m pretty much already there.
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