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Posted on 1/28/17 at 12:48 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:But weren't they something like 11-5 both seasons? Those weren't collapses, they were oddball seasons where they normally still would have gotten in.
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Brady has been Belichicks game manager of choice and they don't miss a beat without him.
Belichick has coached two seasons in New England without Brady as his starting quarterback, and they have missed the postseason both times.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:05 pm to Tyga Woods
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Brady has done it without the stable of future hall of famers like Manning and Montana had. Besides Randy Moss for that one amazing year and the often injured Gronkowski, Brady has consistently put his team in contention with small, white, under-sized receivers, middle of the road running backs, and usually just an average defense.
If you're talking about doing more with less, why isn't Brett Favre mentioned more as a GOAT candidate? He did more with less than anybody. He broke most of the major career passing records despite playing his entire career with exactly zero HOF caliber offensive players around him outside of one year with AD when he was 40 years old.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:13 pm to TTsTowel
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He set his personal season single touchdown record while in Denver, with 10 in 2013.
But he didn't have nearly as many receptions and yards as he did while at New England. He was only in Denver for two years before they traded him.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:14 pm to Bench McElroy
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If you're talking about doing more with less, why isn't Brett Favre mentioned more as a GOAT candidate?
1 Super Bowl ring to show for it.
Like it or not, QBs are judged by the championships they win as well as the stats they put up.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:21 pm to RollTide1987
quote:He was older and Peyton Manning was spreading the ball around to Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas and so forth, as well as Wes Welker. Plus, he missed games due to concussions. He was clearly on the backside of his career.
But he didn't have nearly as many receptions and yards as he did while at New England
quote:Denver didn't trade him. His contract expired.
He was only in Denver for two years before they traded him.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:26 pm to Scoob
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But weren't they something like 11-5 both seasons?
No. They weren't. He was 5-11 in 2000 without Brady. In 2008, the year Brady went down in the first game, that was virtually the same team that had gone undefeated the year before. They go from 16-0 to 11-5. Had Brady been the QB they lose one or two games tops and make the playoffs.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:30 pm to TTsTowel
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He was older
He had over 1,000 yards with Brady the season before.
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Peyton Manning was spreading the ball around to Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas and so forth
Exactly. You know you have very little all-star talent to work with when Wes Welker is your #1 WR.
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Plus, he missed games due to concussions
He missed 5 games total in two years.
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Denver didn't trade him. His contract expired.
Even worse.
This post was edited on 1/28/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:36 pm to RollTide1987
He is the best
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:47 pm to Nukeese
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Peyton. fricking. Manning.
They guy who threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns in his SB appearances?
Edit: Nevermind, you're a UTjr fan. That explains it.
This post was edited on 1/28/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:50 pm to RollTide1987
1. Haters.
2. "Cheating."
3. Aaron Rodgers.
2. "Cheating."
3. Aaron Rodgers.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:50 pm to Minden tiger
quote:Now imagine a couple of QBs having that virtually every season...
And for the record, the Pats had some BAD defenses between 2007-2012 that held the team back from another possible title, not to mention Pats defense is on the hook for two SB losses.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:52 pm to RollTide1987
quote:He had 10 touchdowns the following season when he was older. There's a reason New England let him get away, though.
He had over 1,000 yards with Brady the season before.
quote:Denver and Peyton Manning did a great job of spreading the ball around. Had nothing to do with Wes Welker's talent.
Exactly. You know you have very little all-star talent to work with when Wes Welker is your #1 WR.
quote:No shite? And couldn't catch on with a team after those two seasons. I wonder why.
He missed 5 games total in two years.
quote:He was old and washed up. It's not hard to comprehend.
Even worse.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:53 pm to RollTide1987
I envy him like every non patriot fan but he is fricking good
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:56 pm to RollTide1987
quote:1. Just because everyone does something one way doesn't make it the right way.
Like it or not, QBs are judged by the championships they win as well as the stats they put up.
2. Just because everyone else does it one way doesn't mean you have to do it that way.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 1:57 pm to Korin
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They guy who threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns in his SB appearances?
Edit: Nevermind, you're a UTjr fan. That explains it.
zingPosted on 1/28/17 at 1:59 pm to TT9
And of course he downvotes me.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:02 pm to Korin
They don't like facts.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:36 pm to RollTide1987
He's a system QB. He's not even close to being the GOAT
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:54 pm to Tigerfan53
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He's a system QB
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