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re: How Good Was Barry Bonds?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:17 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:17 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Didn’t Palmeiro win a gold glove when he played like 40 games in the field
Yes.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:20 am to Honest Tune
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September of 2000
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he hit all four into McCovey Cove, 2 fair 2 foul.
You liarrrrrrrr! Only one ball in all of September 2000 made it to the cove (9/20/00).
Boom. Roasted. Bitch.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:20 am to Yaz 8
No one is saying he was just another "good player". His stats are what they are. The negatives he gets is because, yea or nay, he cheated, at least in enough people's perspective he will never get in the HOF. He made his own bed, deliberately went out of his way to piss people off, specifically the sports writers who vote for the HOF. Not relevant? Perhaps, but that is a factor & he fed that bias himself.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:24 am to CincinnatiTiger
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You liarrrrrrrr! Only one ball in all of September 2000 made it to the cove (9/20/00). Boom. Roasted. Bitch.
Nope. And kindly suck my dong, fig. Box score
It was against the Phillies. Ellis Burks, JT Snow went deep as well. Pat Burrell for Philly hit one. Eat my arse.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:32 am to Honest Tune
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:32 am to LSUBoo
Career WAR:
A-Rod: 117.6, 16th all time.
Palmeiro: 71.9, 92nd all time.
McGwire: 62.1, 168th all time.
Sosa: 58.6, 202nd all time.
Bonds: 162.8, 4th all time.
A-Rod: 117.6, 16th all time.
Palmeiro: 71.9, 92nd all time.
McGwire: 62.1, 168th all time.
Sosa: 58.6, 202nd all time.
Bonds: 162.8, 4th all time.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:41 am to CincinnatiTiger
You’re laughable.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:46 am to Keltic Tiger
Mike Schmidt admitted to using amphetamines to boost performance. He is in the HoF. Bonds, Sosa, and McGuire saved baseball after the debacle of a league strike. Travesty they are not in. That core group is important to baseball history as Ruth, Mantle and Williams.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:53 am to OchoDedos
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Before or after he cheated ?
Roids or no...you still have to be able to hit the ball, field the ball and run the bases. Roids may help you recover faster and sure, you can hit the ball further but if you can't put the bat on a nasty curve or slider...they won't help you.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:17 am to littleavery1948
here's another hit - Barry Bonds
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:22 am to LSUGrad00
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You’ll never convince me that those rat frickers didn’t know the players were juiced and didn’t give two shits bc of the money and ratings.
You would have had to have been blind to not know McGwire was juiced. Guy looked like he was entering a world's strongest man competition.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:58 pm to memphis tiger
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Here is where I disagree.
He was an average power hitter before steroids. I’m not sure he ever hit more than 30 in a year before using (could be wrong).
While he was still an all time great before juicing, he wasn’t an all time great power hitter before juicing
Average power hitter he was not...he claimed to not get on the juice until McGwire broke the record so lets be generous and just say the first 10 years of his career he was clean.. he had 330 home runs in that time frame..
Greatest player of all time, piece of shite person.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:20 pm to littleavery1948
He was great, but not as pure and incredible as The Kid. Junior was on another level and is the greatest baseball player I have ever seen!!!
Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:31 pm to littleavery1948
Great player. the best ever? Hell no.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:07 pm to littleavery1948
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How Good Was Barry Bonds?
Almost as good as Jr., whom wasn't on the juice.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:35 pm to littleavery1948
Barry Bonds would have been a hall of famer without the steroids. But 762 hr? frick no, that massive body transformation helped him out big time. So would anyone mention him as a possible greatest of all time without the juice? Nope. He went from a medium frame to a giant. I’m just going to guess and say he would have still had 500 to 550 without the steroids.
ETA- Ken Griffey Jr was a better baseball player than Bonds.
ETA- Ken Griffey Jr was a better baseball player than Bonds.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:00 pm to SelaTiger
Unbelievably, there are people here that think Bonds would have broken the Homerun record without steroids.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:04 pm to kciDAtaE
Well they are just plain retarded.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:21 pm to memphis tiger
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I’m not sure he ever hit more than 30 in a year before using (could be wrong).
You are very wrong. He didn't hit fewer than 33 in any year from 1992-2000.
He also won 8 Gold Gloves.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:36 pm to littleavery1948
Barry Bonds would be better in today’s game than he was in his own era IMO.
The way the game is played today- high velo up in the zone with juiced balls- would favor his style significantly. Additionally, he would likely not take roofs since the rest of the league isn’t openly using.
That man was a monster before the juice!
Think Mike Trout mixed with Byron Buxton mixed with Kevin Keirmeir mixed with Charlie Blackmon.
Average, power, speed, defense, glove
All 5 tools were elite
The way the game is played today- high velo up in the zone with juiced balls- would favor his style significantly. Additionally, he would likely not take roofs since the rest of the league isn’t openly using.
That man was a monster before the juice!
Think Mike Trout mixed with Byron Buxton mixed with Kevin Keirmeir mixed with Charlie Blackmon.
Average, power, speed, defense, glove
All 5 tools were elite
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