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re: How did anyone at Ohio state think Dwayne fricking Haskins was ever better than Joe burrow?
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:23 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:23 pm to TxTiger82
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Joe Burrow was fighting an uphill battle for Urban's favor from the beginning. He was offered a scholarship late in the cycle. He told stories about how Urban used to tell him stuff like "you throw like a girl" and all that crap.
Urban is a coach who plays favorites and Burrow was NOT one of his favorites. He was a backup plan from the beginning and he was never going to play at Ohio State. Huge whiff by a coach with tunnel vision --- couldn't see the talent right under his nose.
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Lots of revisionism by Ohio State fans out there.
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Must be difficult to admit that the more talented player got away.
The better player got away! No way around it. The issue is its only clear in hindsight and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 12:25 pm
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:25 pm to KosmoCramer
ok inform me .MassiLSU then . Why was Burrow 3rd on the depth chart ?? 
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:26 pm to massilsu
Burrow was 2nd on the depth chart then got injured.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:26 pm to KosmoCramer
Just for context, Ohio State offered Dwayne Haskins in April 2014, several months before they offered Joe Burrow in June 2014.
The thing that makes this fact really interesting is that Haskins was A YEAR YOUNGER than Burrow.
Haskins was always the guy. Offered as a HS sophomore, courted heavily throughout the process, and dubbed the heir apparent to JT Barrett from the beginning.
By contrast, Burrow was a camp offer as a rising senior, a backup plan who was subsequently derided by his head coach for several years before getting a fake "opportunity" to win the job.
The thing that makes this fact really interesting is that Haskins was A YEAR YOUNGER than Burrow.
Haskins was always the guy. Offered as a HS sophomore, courted heavily throughout the process, and dubbed the heir apparent to JT Barrett from the beginning.
By contrast, Burrow was a camp offer as a rising senior, a backup plan who was subsequently derided by his head coach for several years before getting a fake "opportunity" to win the job.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:27 pm to TxTiger82
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Just for context, Ohio State offered Dwayne Haskins in April 2014, several months before they offered Joe Burrow in June 2014.
The thing that makes this fact really interesting is that Haskins was A YEAR YOUNGER than Burrow.
Haskins was always the guy. Offered as a HS sophomore, courted heavily throughout the process, and dubbed the heir apparent to JT Barrett from the beginning.
By contrast, Burrow was a camp offer as a rising senior, a backup plan who was subsequently derided by his head coach for several years before getting a fake "opportunity" to win the job.
If true, why was Burrow 2nd string in 2016?
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:29 pm to KosmoCramer
nope .ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh( buzzer sound) .try again fake O$U fan
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:31 pm to massilsu
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:32 pm to TxTiger82
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Just for context, Ohio State offered Dwayne Haskins in April 2014, several months before they offered Joe Burrow in June 2014.
The thing that makes this fact really interesting is that Haskins was A YEAR YOUNGER than Burrow.
Haskins was always the guy. Offered as a HS sophomore, courted heavily throughout the process, and dubbed the heir apparent to JT Barrett from the beginning.
By contrast, Burrow was a camp offer as a rising senior, a backup plan who was subsequently derided by his head coach for several years before getting a fake "opportunity" to win the job.
The real reason that Burrow transferred is because Urban was enamored with Tate Martell, not Haskins.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:38 pm to KosmoCramer
thats all u got 
look , O$U is the straw the stirs the drink of NCAA football along with Texas,USC ,ND and BAMA ...Those 5 schools control everyone else . So , Urb made a deal with Coach O and sent Burrow to LSU .The stars aligned and to Burrows and the great Coach O's credit , LSU somehow squeaked out a natty .Hinsight is 20/20 so Urb took that one up his poop shoot . Urb is a great coach ,maybe GREATER than Nick but Urb is risk taker and heart breaker . He and Shelley are swingers if u didnt know . One day ill PM you and bring you up to speed on how the O$U machine will roll on ,until then you are my apprentice young one . 
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
people tend to forget our main competition for burrow was Cincy. It wasn't like he was this rock star then that the whole nation was after. Our QB room was pathetic and Burrow could walk in and be the day one starter. General consensus seemed we were getting a better danny etling...so really basically everyone got it wrong, minus the Burrow family and that Burreaux poster.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:52 pm to BilJ
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people tend to forget our main competition for burrow was Cincy. It wasn't like he was this rock star then that the whole nation was after.
Sure but the guy was clearly talented. Clearly a smart QB. His point is OSU coaches should have known that.
The real answer is Haskins beat Michigan when Burrow and Barrett were hurt and sorta took the position.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:08 pm to KosmoCramer
Burrow was second string in 2016 only because Haskins was redshirted to preserve his eligibility. Obvious answer.
OSU fans have reinterpreted this to mean Burrow was “ahead” of Haskins. He wasn’t.
OSU fans have reinterpreted this to mean Burrow was “ahead” of Haskins. He wasn’t.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:12 pm to TxTiger82
He wasn't ahead or behind until after he broke his thumb on his throwing hand and had surgery.
Haskins showed out in the Michigan game, and the rest is history.
I don't understand why LSU fans are so obsessed with this narrative
Haskins showed out in the Michigan game, and the rest is history.
I don't understand why LSU fans are so obsessed with this narrative
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:17 pm to KosmoCramer
It isn’t an obsession, we just see it differently. The narrative is that Urban was always fixated on a certain type of player and Burrow wasn’t it.
It is a problem that continues to dog him, actually. It isn’t an indictment of Ohio State as much as it is of Urban Meyer, whose last “hit” came almost a decade ago.
It is a problem that continues to dog him, actually. It isn’t an indictment of Ohio State as much as it is of Urban Meyer, whose last “hit” came almost a decade ago.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:23 pm to TxTiger82
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It isn’t an obsession, we just see it differently. The narrative is that Urban was always fixated on a certain type of player and Burrow wasn’t it.
That doesn't explain Haskins playing over Burrow. It actually is counter to your point.
Burrow was a dual threat, Haskins was a pocket passer.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:32 pm to TxTiger82
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Lots of revisionism by Ohio State fans out there. Must be difficult to admit that the more talented player got away.
This post right here is the worst take in the thread filled with bad takes. OSU fans were as happy for Burrow as anyone but also realize that Haskins was incredible for OSU in his only year starting.
50 TDs in a season is incredible. That would have led the P5 this season, last season, and led it in 2018. Hell it's the 2nd most TDs by a P5 QB ever, behind only Joe Burrow a year later. One of them had to go, and OSU chose to ride Haskins who had one of the best QB seasons ever in cfb as a rSO
Edit: sorry 3rd all time a guy from Tech had 53 in 2003 and he's tied with Bradford
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:42 pm to SammyTiger
at the end of the day regardless of what happened in their pro careers, they ended up with a guy that finished 3rd in the Heisman voting. It's not really that colossal of a frick up
a colossal frick up is looking at Taylor Martinez and telling Burrow "nah we're good"
a colossal frick up is looking at Taylor Martinez and telling Burrow "nah we're good"
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 2:55 pm to BilJ
At least frost could say he barely saw Joe Play
I’d still take anyone of Martinez.
I’d still take anyone of Martinez.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 3:04 pm to taylork37
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Sorry, I am projecting on you because that is what others are claiming.
My bad.
All good.
The reality is nobody knows what would have happened if Burrow and Haskins switched places for the 2018 season. It's fun to talk about, but we simply can't know.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 3:13 pm to BilJ
Would Nebraska have hired Joe Brady? People have forgotten that Burrow had a mediocre 2018.
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