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hoopsgalore
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How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
'How to Win in Recruiting'

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We wanted to find out exactly how high school football players perceive the Power 5 schools, so we asked 224 recruits to grade their interest and desire in each program as if they were the number one recruit in the country (i.e. they had offers from every school).


Thoughts?


WestCoastAg
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
I think it's bull shite because my school isn't #1


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SanAntoneAg
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
Do they know that Bama has won 5 out of nine titles? Guess not...


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CapstoneGrad06
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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The teams at the top of these rankings will get the first picks and the teams at the bottom of the rankings will get the leftovers.


So the perception of playing time is greatly reflected. Which is odd considering Alabama played 17 true freshmen this past season.


Buckeye Backer
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
That graph just makes one really really appreciate the job Pat Fitzgerald is doing at Northwestern.


ReauxlTide222
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
Looking at the list, how does the SEC recruit so well?


TigerChief10
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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Looking at the list, how does the SEC recruit so well?



SEC probably kills most of those big 10 schools on campus visits. They're asking a bunch of guys that haven't visited all these campuses and facilities.


Tiguar
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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18. Auburn 19. Alabama


SHIRT STATUS: PRINTED


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Packer
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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Wisconsin can barely land a single 4 star recruit yet appears in the top 16 of both our brand rankings and revenue rankings.


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Oregon and Clemson don't try to be Alabama and Ohio State. You could make the case that Wisconsin does.


Disagree. Wisconsin has a system in place and recruits to fit that system.


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Colonel Flagg
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
Bama wins recruiting basically every year yet in their analysis of what wins recruiting they put them at #19?
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SprintFun
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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Bama wins recruiting basically every year yet in their analysis of what wins recruiting they put them at #19?



This assumes every player is the same rating. So even though a shitload of 1* scrubs from Minnesota don't think Alabama is that great it has no bearing on the top athletes Bama pulls.


ReauxlTide222
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
I don't even understand what the article is trying to convey.

Starts out by explaining how important branding is, with a poll, which they don't explain at all.

Then they jump straight into hard recruiting data. That data doesn't support their brand claim.

Alabama had 7 straight #1 classes and still finished in their tier 1 this cycle. They're 18th in branding, though. The SEC usually has, what, 7-9 teams in the top 20 of recruiting? But only 5 of the top 20 brands. Again, the article contradicts itself, no?

ETA: Their downfall is probably the sample size. 224 isn't nearly enough.
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WaterLink
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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Thoughts?


Thoughts? I'd like to see the polling data, including what these players were rated, where they were located, etc. It's easy to poll some random 200+ kids in Ohio or California who aren't top prospects and go "OH LOOKS LIKE BAMA ISN'T TOPS AFTER ALL!".

I've said this in a previous post, but professionalism in journalism is dead. All they care about is getting likes or whatever. Reporting credible stories is no longer the standard.


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msutiger
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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10. LSU
23. Washington


Lookie there, beat em in something


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beaverfever
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
I still don’t understand how Penn State’s image rebounded so quickly after the pedophilia scandal. It’s in a better place than it was before the scandal I think. They benefit from being the only major college football program in the Northeast.
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beaverfever
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I’m curious how the 224 recruits polled were chosen.


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Lou Pai
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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That graph just makes one really really appreciate the job Pat Fitzgerald is doing at Northwestern.


And article makes you realize how good Hull must be at KU.


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MontyFranklyn
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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This assumes every player is the same rating. So even though a shitload of 1* scrubs from Minnesota don't think Alabama is that great it has no bearing on the top athletes Bama pulls.
They should have done it by star rating. It would have been far more informative.


KosmoCramer
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It means Nick Sabah doesn't care about social media and still hauls in the best players every year.


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slackster
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re: How CFB recruits perceive P-5 schools
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Alabama had 7 straight #1 classes and still finished in their tier 1 this cycle. They're 18th in branding, though. The SEC usually has, what, 7-9 teams in the top 20 of recruiting? But only 5 of the top 20 brands. Again, the article contradicts itself, no?


Their poll is a decent attempt at brand recognition. However, a random sample of 224 players is not how recruiting is won. There is a distinct geographic bias in NFL players, and location is a big deal to many recruits. A random sample is going to miss that, for example.

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