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re: How can Baseball regain a national following?

Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:21 am to
I personally love baseball's regional focus.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 8:36 am to
I think fewer games would be a must. Have a higher percentage of the games use the #1 pitchers and rarely have to use the #3 pitcher.

Don't let them warm-up between every inning/half inning.

Personally, I haven't watched an MLB game since 1999 or 2000, so I guess allowing steroids would be a start.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:11 am to
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As ESPN does everything it can to destroy its most profitable enterprise - football - by continuing to harp on concussions, football may die in the next 30 years


If the NFL hadn't tried to pull a big tobacco the CTE stuff would not be the story that it is. The coverup is always worse than the crime, and the NFL deserves every single bit of negative press it gets.

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All the yuppie mommies that won't allow their little Brandons, Taylors and Jordans to play tackle football will steer them to soccer and baseball. High school football may be all but nonexistent in a generation or so. Baseball may simply have to wait out the NFL's demise.


I'll believe it when it happens. There will be plenty of kids playing football to keep pro-football going for the foreseeable future.

If pro-football ever did collapse, MLS would switch to a fall schedule and soccer will overtake MLB in under a decade. Young ppl like soccer, they just don't like subpar soccer that MLS provides, but in a world without the NFL that situation would be fixed.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:21 am to
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If pro-football ever did collapse, MLS would switch to a fall schedule and soccer will overtake MLB in under a decade. Young ppl like soccer, they just don't like subpar soccer that MLS provides, but in a world without the NFL that situation would be fixed.



No it won't. The reason U.S soccer is subpar has very little to do with the caliber of athletes. Also, MLS generated $461 million in revenue last year while MLB generated $8.7 billion in total revenue. MLS won't even surpass the NHL in the next 50 years much less MLB.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:37 am to
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MLS won't even surpass the NHL in the next 50 years much less MLB.
50 years is 2.5 times as long as MLS has been in existence. It's going to grow a LOT in that time. I can easily see it passing the NHL in that time, at least in the US.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:47 am to
I thought the soccer board was out into place so I didn't have to read this garbage.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 9:48 am to
Get the frick out of here with that MLS shite
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:08 am to
Baseball has a lot of the same issues as horse racing

Stop playing games when everyone is at work


Understand your not the only show in town and schedule accordingly. Don't schedule a game when there is a NBA play off game on and get pissy when no one watches


Get rid of or drastically reduce farm league. what is the point odyme following arkansas kids in the mlb draft if I'm not gonna ever see them play for 5 years. Oh great he got drafted by the red Sox. Now hes gonna play for the bumfrick generals a d if he kills it in 5 different independent leagues hell get promoted to double a ball...


Too many games. When you get to my level of gambling pool size matters. Stop watering down wagering pool s with your never ending 5k claimer none winner of 2 races on Wednesdays in the last 3 years lol condition races. 162 games. The NBA is a long season. Baseball is twice as long.


Why would you ask people to watch games that literally do not matter. If you can lose 10 games in a row and your managers response is "frick it, we will turn it around soon" your season is too long

If you want people to care, the games have to mean something.

They should play every team in their division 8 times, evey team in the AL / NL not in their division 5 times and ONE 3 game interleague series. That's an 80 game season



In horse racing Monmouth Park has a big race called United Nations turf this is a pretty big deal, with some of the best horses in the world coming to run against each other. one year I watched Monmouth Park advertise the s*** out of this race for months, spend all this money on advertising, get all these horses to come in, and what do they do? they run the race at the exact same time that Rachel Alexandra is running against older male horses for the first time in her career with a horseof the year title on the line. literally the exact minute,I couldn't watch both races if I wanted to. then the next day wondering why they're handle was so down and so low. this is Major League Baseball in a nutshell
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80266 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:16 am to
Make it less boring.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:32 am to
time you stay on the SECr
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:41 am to
Can we get a thread name change? It should be titled "Stupid shite that people who don't care about baseball think will make them care about baseball, ultimately to to decide they don't care about baseball anyways.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:42 am to
MLB only needs to do a few things

-Go back to 154 game schedules
-Market the stars (Trout, Harper, Kershaw, Puig, McClutchen)
-Bring back more day games during the summer for the kids
-Quit starting games at 8PM
-Lower the price on some of the good seats

baseball is still insanely popular, local ratings, attendance, and revenue tells us that. But when they start late on a Monday, Wednesday, Sunday then they lose a lot of the audience because they're kids who have to sleep.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38724 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:45 am to
If the NFL hadn't tried to pull a big tobacco the CTE stuff would not be the story that it is.

The CTE story is as big of a story as ESPN wanted to make it. They have zero journalistic integrity on everything else. Why start now? With their agenda-driven coverage of every other story they touch (Duke lax, Michael Sam to name a couple), are you telling me they couldn't just give lip service to concussions and move on?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75808 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 10:57 am to
The New York Times broke the cover up story. Not ESPN.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:00 am to
People that actually know something about the subject are laughing at this foolishness.

9.5 billion in revenues..... and not beholden to the alter of espn and their national shite show. Tell us, how much money did the NHL and the NBA make last year.

MLB players couldn't afford the pay cut to play in the NFL.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38724 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:04 am to
So? In 2016 no one reads newspapers. No one saw or remembers the story out of that fishwrap. If ESPN ignored it, that story would have sunk into obscurity.

If you don't think the crusade against football is going to have a long-term effect on the NFL, you're crazy. Wouldn't surprise me if in the next 15 years hundreds of high schools drop it due to insurance costs. Baseball will benefit greatly as a result.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47140 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:24 am to
Have little league dads fight between innings
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140703 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:26 am to
Over react much?
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:45 am to
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Can we get a thread name change? It should be titled "Stupid shite that people who don't care about baseball think will make them care about baseball, ultimately to to decide they don't care about baseball anyways.


This
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64491 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:59 pm to
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How you don't see the difference in a single player affecting a game of basketball compared to baseball is strange.
I do and that's the whole point. Superstars don't have near the impact in baseball as they do basketball. It's much more centered around team play, and let's face it, flukes happen a lot more often in baseball than basketball. The better team doesn't always necessarily win. In baseball it doesn't make much sense to market superstars when they're just as likely to go 0 for 4 as they are to hit a home run. Stars put fans of that team in their respective stadiums, but they don't have near the marketing pull toward the general public.

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making the same argument that basketball is shite unless people are putting up MJ numbers...because you know it was super common for so many people to be hitting 50-60-70 homers like you said
Which still happens. You could argue there's more talent in the NBA right now than there has been since the late 80's, early 90's. Hell even Kobe Bryant's old arse just put up 60 in his last game. Curry getting 50 points is just another weekend. Games are more high scoring than they've ever been.

People can downvote all they want, but baseball has never put much effort into marketing stars and it makes zero sense to do so. When you have to add a bullshite incentive to the all-star game to even get people to watch, therein lies your answer.

In short, my stance is baseball doesn't need to do anything. They're still making money and is 2nd only to football in popularity. Maybe go back to 154 games and change the wildcard from a winner-take-all game to a short series, but baseball isn't the sinking ship others are making it out to be.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 2:12 pm
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