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re: How bad would an NBA team from 1994 crush a team from 1964?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:37 pm to Dairy Sanders
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:37 pm to Dairy Sanders
I haven’t said a single thing about 2024. Only you and tacky have self loathed about them 

Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:37 pm to prplhze2000
quote:Another stud from 94
Guess you didn't see what Olajuwan
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:22 am to lsupride87
If you're talking about across the leagues, including all players, then yeah, major advantages for teams from the 1990s. But the best players from the 1960s were phenomenal. Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, et al. They'd be able to put together a really good team for some kind of intertemporal All-Star game.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:39 am to lsupride87
The NBA in 1964, 1994, and 2024 is an extremely small sample of, by and large, genetic freaks. Did the Barnum and Bailey circus freak show have freakier freaks 30 years later? Maybe, because the population had grown and interest had grown. But in terms of the freaks evolving, no chance. That’s extremely negligible. The game evolving? It’s changing. A guy used to the style of play 30 years ago playing today would be equally as ill prepared as vice versa
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:50 am to lsupride87
1994 would be the precise year MJ was a minor league baseball player the whole time and not playing basketball.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:04 am to lsupride87
Michael Jordan wasn’t playing in 1994, so he isn’t on the team
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:11 am to lsupride87
2004 would be really good
Prime Kobe
Prime Shaq
Prime Duncan
Prime Iverson
Prime McGrady
Prime Garnett
Prime Dirk Nowitzki
Prime Nash
Prime Ray Allen
Prime Paul Pierce
Young Lebron
Young Wade
Young Carmelo Anthony
Prime Kobe
Prime Shaq
Prime Duncan
Prime Iverson
Prime McGrady
Prime Garnett
Prime Dirk Nowitzki
Prime Nash
Prime Ray Allen
Prime Paul Pierce
Young Lebron
Young Wade
Young Carmelo Anthony
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
You are on a roll with shitty posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:02 pm to InkStainedWretch
1964 stat leaders
Points Per Game 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 34.7
Rebounds Per Game 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 24.1
Assists Per Game 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 11.5
Field Goal Pct 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT .510
Free Throw Pct 1. Larry Costello* • PHI .877
2-Pt Field Goal Pct 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT .510
True Shooting Pct 1. Bailey Howell* • BAL .582
Field Goal Attempts 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 2083
Free Throws 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 665
Free Throw Attempts 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 88
Minutes Played 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 3466
Minutes Per Game 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 45.6
Personal Fouls 1. Bailey Howell* • BAL 345
Player Efficiency Rating 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 28.6
Win Shares 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 17.0
Offensive Win Shares 1. Jerry West* • LAL 14.8
Defensive Win Shares 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 14.4
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes 1. Jerry West* • LAL .261
Assist Pct 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 37.8
1963-64 Season Summary 1965-66 Season Summary:
League Champion: Boston Celtics
Most Valuable Player: Bill Russell (14.1/24.1/5.3)
Rookie of the Year: Willis Reed (19.5/14.7/1.7)
PPG Leader: Wilt Chamberlain (34.7)
RPG Leader: Bill Russell (24.1)
APG Leader: Oscar Robertson (11.5)
WS Leader: Oscar Robertson (17.0)
All-NBA
1st Team
Elgin Baylor
Jerry Lucas
Oscar Robertson
Bill Russell
Jerry West
2nd Team
Wilt Chamberlain
Hal Greer
Gus Johnson
Sam Jones
Bob Pettit
All-Star Game Rosters
East:
Larry Costello*
Wayne Embry*
Johnny Green
Hal Greer*
Tom Heinsohn* (1)
Luke Jackson
Sam Jones*
Jerry Lucas*
Willis Reed*
Oscar Robertson*
Bill Russell*
West:
Elgin Baylor*
Walt Bellamy*
Wilt Chamberlain*
Terry Dischinger
Gus Johnson*
Don Ohl
Bob Pettit*
Nate Thurmond*
Jerry West*
Lenny Wilkens*
1964-65 NBA Season Summary on sportsreference.com
Points Per Game 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 34.7
Rebounds Per Game 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 24.1
Assists Per Game 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 11.5
Field Goal Pct 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT .510
Free Throw Pct 1. Larry Costello* • PHI .877
2-Pt Field Goal Pct 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT .510
True Shooting Pct 1. Bailey Howell* • BAL .582
Field Goal Attempts 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 2083
Free Throws 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 665
Free Throw Attempts 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 88
Minutes Played 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 3466
Minutes Per Game 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 45.6
Personal Fouls 1. Bailey Howell* • BAL 345
Player Efficiency Rating 1. Wilt Chamberlain* • TOT 28.6
Win Shares 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 17.0
Offensive Win Shares 1. Jerry West* • LAL 14.8
Defensive Win Shares 1. Bill Russell* • BOS 14.4
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes 1. Jerry West* • LAL .261
Assist Pct 1. Oscar Robertson* • CIN 37.8

1963-64 Season Summary 1965-66 Season Summary:
League Champion: Boston Celtics
Most Valuable Player: Bill Russell (14.1/24.1/5.3)
Rookie of the Year: Willis Reed (19.5/14.7/1.7)
PPG Leader: Wilt Chamberlain (34.7)
RPG Leader: Bill Russell (24.1)
APG Leader: Oscar Robertson (11.5)
WS Leader: Oscar Robertson (17.0)
All-NBA
1st Team
Elgin Baylor
Jerry Lucas
Oscar Robertson
Bill Russell
Jerry West
2nd Team
Wilt Chamberlain
Hal Greer
Gus Johnson
Sam Jones
Bob Pettit
All-Star Game Rosters
East:
Larry Costello*
Wayne Embry*
Johnny Green
Hal Greer*
Tom Heinsohn* (1)
Luke Jackson
Sam Jones*
Jerry Lucas*
Willis Reed*
Oscar Robertson*
Bill Russell*
West:
Elgin Baylor*
Walt Bellamy*
Wilt Chamberlain*
Terry Dischinger
Gus Johnson*
Don Ohl
Bob Pettit*
Nate Thurmond*
Jerry West*
Lenny Wilkens*
1964-65 NBA Season Summary on sportsreference.com
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:24 pm to lsupride87
It is a stupid comparison at this point. Take the guys from the 90's and give them the diet/supplements, training, and practice routine from the 60's or vice versa and then you can compare.
IF you take that into consideration, and start with the era of integration, I believe you would have fairly equal squads across all eras. Wilt Chamberlin was a collegiate quarter mile runner at over 7 ft tall. Now introduce him to a modern weight room and put him on a year round training regimen. I mean, the dude set track records as a college freshman.
IF you take that into consideration, and start with the era of integration, I believe you would have fairly equal squads across all eras. Wilt Chamberlin was a collegiate quarter mile runner at over 7 ft tall. Now introduce him to a modern weight room and put him on a year round training regimen. I mean, the dude set track records as a college freshman.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:27 pm to Basura Blanco
And a hurdler, and a high jumper, and later, a volleyball player.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
About as bad as a team from 2024 would beat a team from 1994.
Today's league has better shooting, better movement, better team switch defenses.
All 1994 would have is bruiser ball.
Today's league has better shooting, better movement, better team switch defenses.
All 1994 would have is bruiser ball.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:57 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Depends on the rules. If they played by 1964 rules

No they wouldn’t. In 1964 basketball sports in general really were not nearly as popular or lucrative like they would be 30 years later. You didn’t have nearly the depth of talent like you did by the 90s. That’s why the Celtics and UCLA completely dominated. Over time as the sport gets more popular it attracts more talent not to mention the increased knowledge in fitness training and understanding of the game
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:23 pm to lsupride87
There are diminishing returns. There is a bigger gap in ability between 1964 and 1994 than there is from 1994 to 2024.
Honestly though, even though I don’t think the caliber of athlete is vastly different from 1994 to 2024, it’s almost impossible to compare that era to this era. The game was played so much differently than it is now. I think the style of play now, the shot selection, and the rules are so different than they were in the 90’s. The way basketball is played now is so much better that I think the 2024 team would dominate the 1994 team just due to the difference in play style.
Back to the basket centers, mid-range jumpers, iso ball, and slow-paced half-court offensive sets are not going to beat the pick and roll, 3-point shooting, uptempo read and react offense of today. It’s just a different game. For the better, I might add.
Honestly though, even though I don’t think the caliber of athlete is vastly different from 1994 to 2024, it’s almost impossible to compare that era to this era. The game was played so much differently than it is now. I think the style of play now, the shot selection, and the rules are so different than they were in the 90’s. The way basketball is played now is so much better that I think the 2024 team would dominate the 1994 team just due to the difference in play style.
Back to the basket centers, mid-range jumpers, iso ball, and slow-paced half-court offensive sets are not going to beat the pick and roll, 3-point shooting, uptempo read and react offense of today. It’s just a different game. For the better, I might add.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:28 am to lsupride87
I think Steve Kerr has joked about this previously saying that basketball is the only sport out there where fans don’t believe that players get better over time.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:48 am to extremetigerfanatic
The Dream is by far the most underrated player of all time
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:50 pm to lsupride87
In 1964, the NBA only had 9 teams.
The cream of the crop was playing.
Now there's 30 teams.
Just the addition of starters that's over 100 more players that make the league.
The cream of the crop was playing.
Now there's 30 teams.
Just the addition of starters that's over 100 more players that make the league.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:26 pm to InkStainedWretch
quote:
500-foot outfield fences
500 ft center field, 250 down the lines.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:55 pm to lsupride87
The old heads will never change their minds about players from the past. It doesn’t matter that we have video of these games and we can see how bad the basketball is. Their love of nostalgia is too strong and won’t allow them to see the truth.
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