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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:17 am to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:17 am to
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they would be the worst team to win an NBA title by a pretty big margin

2004 Pistons won 54 reg. season games
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:19 am to
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2004 Pistons won 54 reg. season games
He's just being Boom.

His beloved Rockets back to back titles won 58 and 47 games.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:20 am to
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I think we were told 100 times that losing Beverley wasn't a big deal because he wasn't even good this year.
Well, it is true that Beverley did not have a good year... even on defense.

But I think people underestimated just how bad the back-up point guards were on defense because they only saw them in small doses compared to a full 48 in the playoffs.

Losing both Beverley and Motiejunas hurt, and saying otherwise means people were just trying to remain optimistic.

But even still, the Clippers are a bad match-up for the Rockets.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:23 am to
I think most people here and most NBA guys on Twitter and TV said that the absence of Beverley would negatively impact the Rockets. The only people who downplayed it were Rockets fans.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:24 am to
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His beloved Rockets back to back titles won 58 and 47 games.


Lead by an ALL time great the Grizz don't have a player even in the top 25 at their position all time.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:25 am to
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But I think people underestimated just how bad the back-up point guards were on defense because they only saw them in small doses compared to a full 48 in the playoffs.
Case in point with my back and forth with SwaggerCopter here:

LINK
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:26 am to
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Lead by an ALL time great the Grizz don't have a player even in the top 25 at their position all time.
Ok, so get your argument corrected then, you said it was due to the amount of wins season by season, that was your first argument.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:26 am to
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The only people who downplayed it were Rockets fans.
This
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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160203 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:26 am to
All time doesn't mean shite. They have the best center in the league, a great power forward and very good defensive players to round out their team. Plus they have pretty solid depth.

I've said most years that the Grizz can't shoot well enough to win an NBA title but it seems different this year. May be because of their massive coaching upgrade.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:27 am to
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k, so get your argument corrected then, you said it was due to the amount of wins season by season, that was your first argument.



There's a number of reasons not just one.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:28 am to
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There's a number of reasons not just one.
Ok...and again, you gave 1 reason in the original post that me and I think SFP took exception to, wins season by season.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59926 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:28 am to
Yea they are a solid team but comparing them to other title winning teams with all time great players leading the way they just don't stack up IMO. If they make it to the finals I can guarantee you'll see many many other people backing me up.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:30 am to
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I think most people here and most NBA guys on Twitter and TV said that the absence of Beverley would negatively impact the Rockets. The only people who downplayed it were Rockets fans.
Some Rockets fans did, some didn't.

They were already frustrated with Beverley's play all year, so some of it was feelings of "good riddance" and some of it was just blind optimism.

Most of the national guys didn't even know that Beverley was struggling. They still thought he was an all-NBA defensive player. That's why they were saying it was going to hurt.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:31 am to
It's a dumb argument that's impossible to quantify but I'll say this. The Western Conference these past couple of years has been brutal, the toughest I've ever seen as far as sheer depth of very good teams. Whichever team is able to win the Western Conference will not be the worst team to ever win a title.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:32 am to
This thread still has action? We gots that many Clippers fans round here?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:32 am to
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It's a dumb argument that's impossible to quantify but I'll say this. The Western Conference these past couple of years has been brutal, the toughest I've ever seen as far as sheer depth of very good teams. Whichever team is able to win the Western Conference will not be the worst team to ever win a title.
Lock it up, no question about it.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:34 am to
Is the series over?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:37 am to
My opinion? Yes. The Clippers are better. We have no answer for them. McHale's answer is to slow down the game by hacking Deandre, which takes us out of rythem. It's a stupid strategy, especially in the first half of a game. He really sucks.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87560 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:38 am to
Well until it's officially over, the series thread will keep going
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130926 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:39 am to
It might as well be. Which of the remaining teams in the playoffs have looked more lifeless?
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