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re: Hamza Abdullah sho is angry at the NFL
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:57 pm to Jamohn
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:57 pm to Jamohn
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What if they were actively misled by their employer, the NFL, who did everything they could to discredit and suppress information that was detrimental to their bottom line?
If you don't realize someone hitting you over and over again is going to hurt you, then you probably had brain damage anyway.
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:59 pm to F machine
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If you don't realize someone hitting you over and over again is going to hurt you, then you probably had brain damage anyway.
i played high school football in the 90's, and while everybody knew football was dangerous in a general sense, there was absolutely no conception that concussions were as bad for you as we later found out.
If the NFL knew and suppressed this information, and i'm not saying that they did but if they did, that's really terrible on a number of levels.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:00 pm to blzr
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Hamza Abdullah ?@HamzaAbdullah21 1h
frick you NFL for that slave trade you call the "NFL COMBINE", where you strip us of our manhood.
Hamza Abdullah ?@HamzaAbdullah21 1h
frick you NFL for not taking care of players families. frick you NFL.
Hamza Abdullah ?@HamzaAbdullah21 1h
How many former players have to kill themselves before you guys fricking realize, that they're pushing us to it.
Hamza Abdullah ?@HamzaAbdullah21 1h
frick you NFL and NFLPA for sitting back and watching all this shite happen. Save the fricking players.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:01 pm to F machine
Astute analysis there...
Clearly you have all the necessary info to draw an informed conclusion on the topic.
Clearly you have all the necessary info to draw an informed conclusion on the topic.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:02 pm to blzr
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frick you NFL for that slave trade you call the "NFL COMBINE", where you strip us of our manhood.
What a dipshit. For someone claiming to be so enlightened and fighting for social justice, you'd expect him to shy away from referring to an insanely lucrative and optional profession as a "slave trade". Imagine what his ancestors would think about him complaining about this by comparing it to slavery.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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If the NFL knew and suppressed this information, and i'm not saying that they did but if they did, that's really terrible on a number of levels.
In what year did the NFL "come clean"? What level of honesty exonerates them? Now that current players know the dangers, can they go back to hitting the shite out of each other?
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:07 pm to Jamohn
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Astute analysis there...
Clearly you have all the necessary info to draw an informed conclusion on the topic.
As is yours in assuming these players have no fault in this situation.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i played high school football in the 90's, and while everybody knew football was dangerous in a general sense, there was absolutely no conception that concussions were as bad for you as we later found out.
Come on, man. I know you don't need someone to tell you that hitting your head over and over is going to have a good outcome.
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If the NFL knew and suppressed this information, and i'm not saying that they did but if they did, that's really terrible on a number of levels.
I agree. They should tell them whatever info they have, but these players don't need to be so naive. Also, this guy came out and said he knew the risks while he was playing. He knew what could happen to him.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:11 pm to Black n Gold
quote:I don't purport to know all the answers nor am I advocating for either side. The only points I am advocating are 1) our collective ignorance concerning this complicated topic and 2) how amazed I am that people as ignorant as I am can arrive at such definitive conclusions and be so passionately certain as to their own righteousness and overall moral high ground.
In what year did the NFL "come clean"? What level of honesty exonerates them? Now that current players know the dangers, can they go back to hitting the shite out of each other?
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:17 pm to Jamohn
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I don't purport to know all the answers nor am I advocating for either side. The only points I am advocating are 1) our collective ignorance concerning this complicated topic and 2) how amazed I am that people as ignorant as I am can arrive at such definitive conclusions and be so passionately certain as to their own righteousness and overall moral high ground.
Because it's common sense that hitting your head over and over again will eventually hurt you. If your boss told you to go ahead and hit your head against the wall and that it would cause no permanent damage, would you believe him?
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:19 pm to F machine
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Come on, man. I know you don't need someone to tell you that hitting your head over and over is going to have a good outcome.
I mean you can say this all you want but there was no conception at all of the possibility of the kinds of effects that we now know. NOBODY, not the coaches, not the players, not the trainers, not anybody would have ever dreamed of something like that at the time. It was just a different era. You need to understand that.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I mean you can say this all you want but there was no conception at all of the possibility of the kinds of effects that we now know. NOBODY, not the coaches, not the players, not the trainers, not anybody would have ever dreamed of something like that at the time. It was just a different era. You need to understand that.
The people that we are talking about have played recently. Not 20-30 years ago. I guess I can understand the older ones not knowing as much, but the more recent ones knew. He even said they knew.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:25 pm to F machine
Over the last 5-8 years, sure. Before that, no way.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Over the last 5-8 years, sure. Before that, no way
I'm not really buying that, but like I said, we are talking about the guy who wrote all of these tweets. He played within the time frame you are talking about. He knew all of the risks and still decided to play.
I'm not doubting the NFL lied and covered up stuff in the past. I would say it is probable that they did, but this guy knew.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think the major complaint is that teams were pushing injured players back out to the field, regardless of their condition. The players are asserting that they had to choose between playing injured or getting cut. I would despise my boss as well if he held my job over my head for getting injured while at work.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:33 pm to Black n Gold
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I think the major complaint is that teams were pushing injured players back out to the field, regardless of their condition. The players are asserting that they had to choose between playing injured or getting cut. I would despise my boss as well if he held my job over my head for getting injured while at work.
Now that is a legit gripe. Some of the rest of it? Not so much.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:37 pm to F machine
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Now that is a legit gripe. Some of the rest of it? Not so much.
Well like in any lawsuit, extra assertions are added to make the argument stick better.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 4:09 pm to F machine
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The people that we are talking about have played recently. Not 20-30 years ago. I guess I can understand the older ones not knowing as much, but the more recent ones knew. He even said they knew.
knowing theres a risk, and knowing what the risk truly amounts to are widely different.
additionally thinking the nfl is going to hedge some of that with long term care that you arent receiving is also probably pretty frustrating.
what this guys circumstances are, i really dont have a clue, beyond him being real fightin angry today.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 4:21 pm to bbrownso
"Every player understood the risks of playing football, and we did it, and would do it over again"
So then why are you bitching?!
Seriously, these players are the biggest bunch of tards. Wanna know why I don't work as a coal miner? Because there's a high probability I will have complications later on.
Don't want concussions, or physical injuries? Don't take a job where the main portion of it is GETTING frickING HIT ON CONSISTENT BASIS.
Gah
So then why are you bitching?!
Seriously, these players are the biggest bunch of tards. Wanna know why I don't work as a coal miner? Because there's a high probability I will have complications later on.
Don't want concussions, or physical injuries? Don't take a job where the main portion of it is GETTING frickING HIT ON CONSISTENT BASIS.
Gah
Posted on 10/31/13 at 5:07 pm to dcrews
Oh look another millionaire the media will tell me to feel sympathy for.
It really is sad how all of these players had no other options in life. Congress should force the NFL to start a Walmart greeter opt out program to save these guys careers
It really is sad how all of these players had no other options in life. Congress should force the NFL to start a Walmart greeter opt out program to save these guys careers
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