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re: Hall of Fame QB Brett Favre wants youth football outlawed
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:20 pm to WPBTiger
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:20 pm to WPBTiger
Yea because there are just soooo many people who played
youth football that are "suffering" from CTE today
Kids are inherently more healthy if they play sports INCLUDING youth FB
The last thing we need is MORE fat little turds parked in front of TV playing video games.
youth football that are "suffering" from CTE today
Kids are inherently more healthy if they play sports INCLUDING youth FB
The last thing we need is MORE fat little turds parked in front of TV playing video games.
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:37 pm to RD Dawg
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The last thing we need is MORE fat little turds parked in front of TV playing video games.
Thank you
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:52 pm to RD Dawg
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The last thing we need is MORE fat little turds parked in front of TV playing video games.
Those fat turds can still play flag football.
Fat Turd gonna fat turd tho.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:03 pm to htran90
What about playing tackle football without pads? Put kids in soft helmets (think wrestling helmets) and mouth pieces and let them play. We played backyard tackle football and no one got concussions bc you didn’t lead with your head when you don’t have a helmet on. Just my 2 cents.
Also, grouping kids according to their size and speed and not their age would help as well.
Also, grouping kids according to their size and speed and not their age would help as well.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:11 pm to StatMaster
Works just fine for rugby, so I don’t see why that couldn’t work teaching football players proper form tackling technique.
If you watch rugby, you’ll notice the players don’t lead with their heads or make what would be considered “high tackles” in football. Many rugby players still wear soft helmets in case of impact, but you don’t see head collisions in rugby anywhere near as much as football.
I might sound crazy saying that football could become safer with less padding (or at least hard helmets), but I really think it would. The force of your average rugby collision is much less than in football because the players are careful without padding to protect them. Our football players are a bit reckless sometimes with how they tackle because the pads and helmets make them feel invincible.
If you watch rugby, you’ll notice the players don’t lead with their heads or make what would be considered “high tackles” in football. Many rugby players still wear soft helmets in case of impact, but you don’t see head collisions in rugby anywhere near as much as football.
I might sound crazy saying that football could become safer with less padding (or at least hard helmets), but I really think it would. The force of your average rugby collision is much less than in football because the players are careful without padding to protect them. Our football players are a bit reckless sometimes with how they tackle because the pads and helmets make them feel invincible.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:16 pm to Powerman
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The data backs this up.
Need to see this data please.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:22 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Need to see this data please.
As would I and I don't want to see some "study" commissioned by an attorney or advocacy group suing the
NFL,CFB or HSFB.
I'd like to see a long term study of HS FB players vs non HS FB players and compare their health 20 to 30 years later aND the frequency of CTE with examinations on those who passed.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:45 pm to RD Dawg
A teammate of mine, who died at 43, and was the Times Picayune POY as a senior had multiple concussions.
I would not have a problem with a redshirt HS program.
Not everyone matures— in any respect— in four years of HS.
Frankly, some of our most successful alums in my class were not scholars in HS either.
A redshirt HS program, in every sport, is not a bad thing.
Decelerated school schedules do not make you stupid, but helps you mature and grow in all facets,
I would not have a problem with a redshirt HS program.
Not everyone matures— in any respect— in four years of HS.
Frankly, some of our most successful alums in my class were not scholars in HS either.
A redshirt HS program, in every sport, is not a bad thing.
Decelerated school schedules do not make you stupid, but helps you mature and grow in all facets,
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:50 pm to Porkchop Express
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A redshirt HS program, in every sport, is not a bad thing.
These are what freshman teams are for. Heck, some of the big schools field 3-4 squads... or used to back in the day
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:41 pm to St Augustine
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but wouldn’t it be more beneficial to really teach these kids to tackle and instill good habits early?
I played from the ages of 7-18.
our team got a new coach at Municipal Park when I was 10. I mention it cause that was really the first time I could remember a coach teaching proper technique to tackle.
basically he tried to teach about squaring up on the target and emphasized wrapping up. At that age it seemed to work cause most of the time the teams we'd play only had like maybe 5 different plays that they ran?? And no one hardly ever got hurt. Not seriously anyway to the point you couldn't help but remember.
the one time I got a concussion was years later in high school. I knocked the hell out of a player on a blind side block on a punt return. We both ended up leaving the game and I felt like shite for the next few days. It was the only time I ever felt scared from playing football. Those next few days I mean after it happened.
sorry for the drift to memory lane but it's all I have to contribute. Back then (late 90's high school years) not every team used a spread offense. A lot of the undersized teams we played still ran the veer. Guys were in better position to make tackles by default almost.
my worst moment just happened to be on a special teams play. We may have spent 10 minutes at each practice working on punt/punt returns. Still no excuse to be a moron and end up hurting yourself.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:55 pm to Porkchop Express
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A teammate of mine, who died at 43, and was the Times Picayune POY as a senior had multiple concussions
OK,not exactly what the point is.Are you saying there was a corolation between his concussions and his premature death?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:27 pm to RD Dawg
LINK
This probably deserves its own thread, but look at how the coach congratulates this thug play. Thankfully the news reporter got blasted for glorifying such a punk nonfootball play. Coach Demetric Warren also had strong words about that play as well.
Demetric D. Warren
Demetric D. Warren
@DemetricDWarren
What part of football that allows a DB to grab a WR under throat and slam him to the ground then get congratulated for it??? That’s not Football it’s nonsense! They find physically inferior guys to go against and try to embarrass them! Sad!!
This probably deserves its own thread, but look at how the coach congratulates this thug play. Thankfully the news reporter got blasted for glorifying such a punk nonfootball play. Coach Demetric Warren also had strong words about that play as well.
Demetric D. Warren
Demetric D. Warren
@DemetricDWarren
What part of football that allows a DB to grab a WR under throat and slam him to the ground then get congratulated for it??? That’s not Football it’s nonsense! They find physically inferior guys to go against and try to embarrass them! Sad!!
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:19 am to RD Dawg
Yeah.
They said it was CTE related.
They said it was CTE related.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:07 am to Porkchop Express
Would like to hear about it...kinda suprising the national media didn't pick up on it and his parents gave permission for that kind of autopsy.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:41 am to WPBTiger
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Favre thinks similar legislation should be a national law.
Not to be political but this is the worst solution possible: Congress regulating youth sports.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:33 am to Turbeauxdog
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Need to see this data please.
I find it hard to believe there is much conclusive data at all that would support getting rid of youth football.
Mike Ditka had the best solution and that was to get rid of the facemask. Ain’t no body going to lead with their head if they ain’t got a facemask.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:44 am to Parade Grounds
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Why can’t young kids just play flag football until 8th grade? No need to completely cut it out
B/c they have dads who played tackle at that young age, and these dads think they know what is best because they played tackle.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 7:45 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:48 am to Colonel Flagg
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Mike Ditka had the best solution and that was to get rid of the facemask. Ain’t no body going to lead with their head if they ain’t got a facemask.
Dentists would be happy with that.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:38 am to WPBTiger
He's right you know.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:42 pm to WPBTiger
The problem I see with youth football is that kids figure out pretty quickly that hitting with your head is a pretty effective way to tackle someone. That, and a lot of their necks aren’t strong enough to keep their head stable during the tackling process with a helmet on even if they’re trying to do it correctly.
When they are still kids, they don’t hit hard enough to get hurt a lot, but those habits carry over.
I’m also not sure there’s any significant football development advantage to playing tackle vs flag football when you’re 10. Anybody who’s going to be good will be able to figure out how to tackle if the start in 8th grade.
When they are still kids, they don’t hit hard enough to get hurt a lot, but those habits carry over.
I’m also not sure there’s any significant football development advantage to playing tackle vs flag football when you’re 10. Anybody who’s going to be good will be able to figure out how to tackle if the start in 8th grade.
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