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re: Good luck to the players in their labor fight. Vladimir Guerrero Jr helps set the table.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:29 am to High C
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:29 am to High C
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I understand that it’s not something you say out loud, but contracts are generally given to veterans based on past performance.
Yeah but he's talking like an older, formerly great, vet on their last big deal where everyone expects maybe 2-3 really good years w/the rest of it being serviceable enough to play while the franchise is pumping out celebratory memorabilia as they approach whatever HOF accumulated stats number it is they're close to hitting.
That's not the kind of deal he has. Yes, it was for his past play but since he's he's only 27 he's also being paid big to play big for a minimum of 5-8 more years before he breaks into being more celebrated for hitting career milestones.
Fair or not fans will be more understanding of this kind of drop off for a guy nearing his mid 30s. Not so much for a guy in his prime.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:31 am to Dr RC
I’ve stated that I understand that and agree.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:39 am to nicholastiger
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would not be shocked if they miss a season
At this point I'll be shocked if they don't miss the season.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:55 am to DiamondDog
Can't wait to see how fat he gets
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:59 am to DiamondDog
This will be a LONG strike if the players union doesn’t budge on the salary cap
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:46 pm to High C
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This is straight from google. Like I already said, my mistake was making it too general without accounting for Vlad’s age. Sure, teams expect high levels of performance to continue, but…
What are you arguing? That teams are overvaluing past production (true) or that they are paying for past production (false).
What do you think Vlad is saying?
IMO, He’s not saying, they made a bad decision because they overvalued my past performance. He’s saying I deserve my contract because of
what I’ve done…and I deserve it no matter what my performance looks like moving forward.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:19 pm to High C
Vlad is saying that the $500 million is payment for what he already did.
I'm sure the Blue Jays disagree.
You might be the only person other than Vlad that thinks this
I'm sure the Blue Jays disagree.
You might be the only person other than Vlad that thinks this
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:28 pm to DiamondDog
14 years is wild.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:31 pm to Mett's Stache
I’ve tried to clarify what I meant multiple times. Either I didn’t do a very good job, or you’ve just latched onto the first sentence of my first post and ignored the rest.
All cool either way. Just meaningless message board fluff.
All cool either way. Just meaningless message board fluff.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:39 pm to High C
I understood where you’re coming from and I do think it’s changed a lot already in baseball. It’s why you see guys who haven’t played a game get 8/9 year deals worth upwards of 100+ mil, and some vets find it tough to land anything long term and end up with 2/3 year deals with opt outs instead.
Vladdy also may be 27 but he has always been in poor shape physically. It was silly for Toronto to give him that type of security and think his body wouldn’t regress even more than it already had
Vladdy also may be 27 but he has always been in poor shape physically. It was silly for Toronto to give him that type of security and think his body wouldn’t regress even more than it already had
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:51 pm to Mett's Stache
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I'm sure the Blue Jays disagree.
MLB really needs to incorporate some behavioral analysis in as part of their risk mitigation due diligence prior to offering these contracts.
This guy may have a decent season again but he isn’t driving to earn his money. He doesn’t care one bit about earning anything.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:39 am to DiamondDog
14 year $500 million deal, guaran-fricking-teed. How do you motivate this guy ever again? If he isn't a psycho like Tom Brady wanting to just murder everyone for funsies, he will never push himself again.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:43 am to DiamondDog
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The money they gave me wasn't for what I'm going to do. It was for what I already did
He's right, however frustrating to a fan that may be. That's the risk of the guaranteed contract and owners can't help themselves.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:47 am to InkStainedWretch
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there’s an expectation that you are going to maintain that level
Guaranteeing a 500 million dollar contract is an amazing way to kill motivation. You've eliminated the financial downside of poor performance.
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/25/26 at 1:54 pm to SWLA92
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Well he’s only hit 9 homers this year (only 1 came at home) so his words are speaking pretty loudly. He's been abysmal for someone thats gettting paid a contract like that
Can you imagine going into the salary cap era with this guys $36MM a year hanging around your neck for the next 13 years? Wow.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:40 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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And not as good as his dad
He’s a fat slob compared to his pops.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:19 am to DiamondDog
They paid him to rest on his laurels 
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:56 am to DiamondDog
I mean. He’s sorta right. You’re paying for potential based on past proven performance.
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