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Good luck to the players in their labor fight. Vladimir Guerrero Jr helps set the table.

Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:16 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:16 am
Classy Vladdy Jr with his 14 year, $500MM contract has this to say about his poor performance this year.

"I want people to understand one thing. The money they gave me wasn't for what I'm going to do. It was for what I already did," Guerrero told Batista. "They didn't pay me because I'm going to hit 40 [home runs] every year. They paid me for what I already accomplished. People are confused about that, but I think the same way they do. “
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:17 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:18 am to
Grew up rich and has 0 concept of how the world works



And not as good as his dad
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:19 am to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:20 am to
I really don’t mind the big contracts, but you got to hear this as an owner…and think twice about ever doing that again.

But maybe not. MLB seems to live in fantasy land with Monopoly money.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:22 am to
Is he lying, though?

I understand that it’s not something you say out loud, but contracts are generally given to veterans based on past performance.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:25 am to
He’s only 27 though, he is just entering his prime
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:26 am to
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I understand that it’s not something you say out loud, but contracts are generally given to veterans based on past performance.



Uh, you think the Dodgers gave Shohei $700mm because of what he did in the past for the Angels, with no expectation of him continuing that?
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:27 am to
He had what…two elite seasons. Unless since they’re Canadian seasons they’re worth less. Who knows. I leave it up to you good people to decide.

But this guy is cooked. He will be dead payroll if this is his attitude. He has no further motivation apparently. Good luck Toronto.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:32 am to
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Is he lying, though?

I understand that it’s not something you say out loud, but contracts are generally given to veterans based on past performance.


GMs of every sport completely disagree with that
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:35 am to
quote:

But this guy is cooked. He will be dead payroll if this is his attitude. He has no further motivation apparently. Good luck Toronto.


I don’t disagree with this, and I think it’s happening with more players than just Vlad. I think that in 2026 there are a lot of players who simply don’t enjoy playing baseball. That shouldn’t affect their effort or motivation because they are supposed to be professionals, but come on.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Is he lying, though?


If he were 34, he would probably be right.

But he is 27. His argument is not valid.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36854 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:38 am to
Bro I would try to sneak away from this thread if I were you. You have an all-time bad take in it already.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5597 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:41 am to
He’s half right. It is based on what you did before. But you f**king A better believe there’s an expectation that you are going to maintain that level.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:42 am to
would not be shocked if they miss a season
if both sides dig their heels in, it's gonna get ugly
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58856 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:43 am to
Saw the other day Vladdy is rocking a sub .700 OPS


Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5349 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:44 am to
Well he’s only hit 9 homers this year (only 1 came at home) so his words are speaking pretty loudly. He's been abysmal for someone thats gettting paid a contract like that.
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:44 am to
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This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:47 am to
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Bro I would try to sneak away from this thread if I were you. You have an all-time bad take in it already.


I get it. My statement was too generalized without taking his age into consideration enough. I’ll take the L on that part.

I do stand behind the idea that many players have received big contracts and become “satisfied”. Vlad isn’t the first, but he shouldn’t have said it out loud.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64126 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I understand that it’s not something you say out loud, but contracts are generally given to veterans based on past performance.



This is 100% wrong.

Obviously, past performance is probably the best predictor of future performance. But, beyond that, there's no truth to that statement.

Frankly, it's dumb.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62602 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:27 am to
This is straight from google. Like I already said, my mistake was making it too general without accounting for Vlad’s age. Sure, teams expect high levels of performance to continue, but…

quote:

Why Performance Drops After Big Deals

Aging Curves:

Teams typically pay for past performance during peak years, meaning a natural physical decline coincides with the start of the new deal.
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