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re: From Cole St. Clairs Dad

Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:13 am to
Posted by FriscoKid
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Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:13 am to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:18 am to
needless to say this isn't quite going the way owl envisioned it. Of course I don't see how anyone could think this guy didn't come off as anything but a massive pussy.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:34 am to
what a fricking fig. i'm so glad his pussy son and that pussy catcher both had to cry on national tv after the loss.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:36 am to
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FriscoKid


Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/08 at 10:41 am to
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WOW,, yall are the bitches, seriosuly,, he never in any way disprespect lsu


Did you read the piece, Owlie?
Posted by whereyat
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2008
401 posts
Posted on 6/22/08 at 11:00 am to
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needless to say this isn't quite going the way owl envisioned it. Of course I don't see how anyone could think this guy didn't come off as anything but a massive pussy.


I disagree... He came off as a massive labia to me.
Posted by fbb
Member since May 2007
2569 posts
Posted on 6/22/08 at 12:01 pm to
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Turn the page


If Pop St. Clair would have started and stopped there, he would be better off.

Everybody knows it sucks to lose.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:04 pm to
bump, somehow I missed this at the time
This post was edited on 6/2/09 at 12:05 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30029 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:36 pm to
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against the largest schools, budgets and reputations in Texas baseball, and it achieved its unprecedented third straight appearance in Omaha, a distinction that it shares (only) with UNC in this decade


fail...

...might want to drive west to Austin and look in their trophy case...pretty sure they went to 4 straight CWS's this decade, and have TWO national titles. 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005.

Owlie loses...
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 12:40 pm to
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and one-tenth the academic expectations


HEY NOW
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:43 pm to
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what a fricking fig. i'm so glad his pussy son and that pussy catcher both had to cry on national tv after the loss.


+1
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 1:51 pm to
Epic whining is epic.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162849 posts
Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:24 pm to
Quality bump
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:28 pm to
wooooooow. a bump after a year.
Posted by LSshoe
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 3:34 pm to
what did his dad say? im assuming this was after the 9th inning comeback.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/4/09 at 1:58 pm to
owlfag deleted the essay?
Posted by lsurulz1515
Member since Mar 2007
8249 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 2:10 pm to
can someone post what st. clairs daddy said? I want to see the whole thing before I make my own judgement
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66972 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:08 pm to
hahahaha.....someone found it

Part 1

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I only share this because it is beautiful, it speaks to the inherent unfairness in sports and of a fathers love.

This is not an attmept to in any way claim LSU did not deserve the win. So there is no need to reply with trash talk or stupiidity have the class to read and enjoy something that is well written and beautiful.Defeat

[Note: it is now Friday, not Tuesday. Work has been non-stop, including two days of travel, yet I am still processing Tuesday. As Roy Scheider hears in “All that Jazz:” “Shock, Anger, Denial, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.” I don’t know where I am.

Defeat.

How one outwardly reacts to the experience is to some extent controllable. So one adopts the lexicon: “Turn the page…A privilege to simply be here…it’s a crapshoot…all about who’s hot.” Or as John McKay once told his USC football team after a loss in the Rose Bowl to Ohio State, “One billion Chinese didn’t know the game was played.”

How one feels is not as controllable, for emotions must run their course, and while they differ in and for each of us in intensity and ability to deflect, based on situation, proximity, personality and self-awareness, we share far more of the feelings flowing out of defeat than we hold alone.

We all suffer, some more than others. Suffering is the common bond, as is love. We suffer because we have chosen to love:

“Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket--safe, dark, motionless, airless--it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable.”
~C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves

While these very present feelings do run their course, in addition to sadness I feel guilty, sorry, and empty, almost as if we had suffered a “small” death (we recently had a death in the family, so I am careful not to equate the two). I cannot explain why, but these feelings create guilt. This is senseless, we have an existence, my son, my family and I, which many would want for themselves insofar as he has completed a nearly-ideal career at a major academic university, which simultaneously provided the opportunity for a nearly-ideal career in college baseball—and the immediate prospect of playing professionally, truly a universal dream for boys all over the world. The fall from the dream to reality of defeat, though, is precipitous and instant.

“From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step.” -- Napoléon Bonaparte,

After proclaiming himself First Consul of the French Republic in 1799, Napoleon waged war on three continents against every significant military power of the known world. After a string of victories that altered world history, he suffered an unexpected and massive defeat, chiefly due to an excess of ambition that overstretched supply lines and put his troops at the mercy of a Russian winter which took no prisoners.

Napoleon kept a journal during his campaigns, which is still published today, and is worthy reading. I loved the book 20 years ago, and some quotes came to mind in reflecting on our Tuesday game, the last defeat in my son’s amateur career.

“Send me 300 francs; that sum will enable me to go to Paris. There, at least, one can cut a figure and surmount obstacles. Everything tells me I shall succeed. Will you prevent me from doing so for the want of 100 crowns?”

It’s the little things, isn’t it? For want of a nail, and so on.

Now, I didn’t say “losing pitcher” to my son. Rather we talked about the perfect storm of seemingly survivable events and perceptions that cost Rice a game that was all but won. I spoke, angrily at times, about little things that collectively took the game out of his hands, so that he could be then blamed for the result (aka in BA, “Requiem for a College Career”). That’s how it is for pitchers. Remember that, all you who wish for your sons to become one.

Amateur umpires abound, proud ones, particularly in the College World Series. They are of a single mind—and the other one. Either they exploit their moment in the spotlight to demand attention, as was the case in the ridiculous Savery called strike three last year, or they refuse to be anywhere near the determination of an at-bat by refusing to call the best pitches strikes in late innings, suddenly frightened to admit to the zone they had imposed so pridefully thus far. The called third strike Cole got to end the sixth, a fastball on the inside corner at the knees on an 0-2 count, a ball that hit the glove, that was a call he would never see again. I feel as if I am Adam Zornes, holding my mitt in the frame, time after time, emphasizing that the pitch was a match to the target. “This is a strike now, as it had been a strike all game long”, Adam says. A little thing.

In this conversation my son was still taking responsibility, another reflection of the exact attitude that allows him to stand on that mound at such times when the sport feels larger than life (it isn’t). He spoke mainly about fastballs selected too often, bounding balls that found holes, standing over his wounded catcher pleading, “pick up the ball, tag him again.” I replied that he threw so many fastballs up because that is what he was given, as breaking balls, the corners and the knees had been taken away. I replied that this freshly rained-on mid-western infield had dried into concrete. A batter was hit by a ball he was attempting to swing at. Yes, it ran inside, your fastball can do that, it could have gone either way…a little thing.

Or, a dead-to-rights pick-off on a move that I saw from a good angle in right field as one of his best ever…ever! That is until I saw the umpire point to second base, transforming it into a run-scoring balk (please, do not attempt to persuade. Nothing in the rule book speaks of “bending the back leg,” because it is impossible to throw anywhere without doing so.) I felt, still feel, as if it were my balk (or not).
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66972 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:08 pm to
part 2

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For me, fear had entered the game and turned it into a lie. In only one night I had heard a lot of talk about “collapse,” referring to this play or that, mostly defensive. I didn’t feel the ball come up into my glove, or punch my stomach, or my cheek, spinning wildly in reverse from the aforementioned concrete, and run up or out or over instead of sticking in the web. I didn’t reach in to grab and toss with fingers thickened by apprehension. I wasn’t Jordan Dodson, continuing his late season surge with a rope to the left-field corner, yet walking back to the dugout for his final time as an Owl, to give one more AB to Jess Buenger a lefty-righty match-up with an insurance run, perhaps the winning run, at third. I just feel like him, in my own perception. When Jess takes strike three I feel just like him, too. I wasn’t Mike Ojala, Thursday’s starter, appropriately held out of Monday’s and Tuesday’s games so he could take his regular bullpens to fully prepare for the Bulldogs, part two, the game that never happened. And thus Mike’s Omaha career has not yet begun. I imagine I feel like him. I am not Derek Myers, who has served, but has also waited, for four years, but that waiting is over, without a second Rice Championship. I gave Derek a hug, and I felt just like him, in my own perception. The plays we made I see and cheer, I don’t project myself into them. Isn’t that funny? It isn’t me, it’s Chad Mozingo, the one and only, charging that perfectly-placed worm-burner through the hole and into RF, scooping it with his glove, transferring and winding up for a monstrous two-hopper to the plate. It is the one and only Adam Zornes on the other side of the same play, taking time to block the plate, fully receive the ball in his mitt, turn, stop the runner, tag him, fall in a heap with him, find the ball loosened at impact and tag him again. And it is Cole telling the LSU coach to “go sit down” when he comes to argue. How perfectly inappropriate, just as his Dad would have done. I see games like this as more mystical—nothing can change its course. I know that a step to the left or right, or an outfielder playing deeper or moved to the line—or the alley (but which?) will change a result on a given play, but if the fates are against it, they will competently accommodate defensive repositioning. Was it a double-play ball? Probably, surely Rick and Jimmy make the exchange as beautifully as we’ve come to expect—that’s’ what you see from 30 rows up and down the right-field line, viewed by the heart. But before that I had seen what felt like a half-dozen strike-outs unrecorded, and four bounding grounders with eyes, guided by the fates into the Hades darkness of defeat. Chris Kelley pitched the game of his life, the only shut-out start in the CWS this year, against the ballyhooed bayou bangers. For most of six innings he carved up the strike zone, changing speeds, and believing in his stuff. He faced a left-hand dominated line-up full of home-run hitters who had put LSU on the longest winning streak of the season. They had consumed some of the best pitching staffs in the country during the regionals. But Chris, a righthander, was consuming them this day. Meanwhile the Rice offense was efficiently producing one or two runs an inning, laying bricks in a 5-0 wall. In the sixth with two outs, LSU found their way to second and third, with the lefthanded meat of the order coming up. CSC was warm and ready, and the call came at the right time. He proved it with a three pitch strike-out, over-matching one humongous Tiger on fastballs. We all knew that Coach would try to keep Cole in to finish the game. He was fresh, he was a lefty against lefties, he was the most experienced CWS pitcher in the 20008 edition. It was his to lose, as they say. Defeat, even for the consistently “victorious” is inevitable and constant—in the game of life, surely, and equally in sport. I felt defeat Wednesday morning while shoelessly juggling this laptop, a coffee cup and two inherited magazines plus a suspicious blueberry muffin while framing my boarding pass through security at Epply Field. But that game of security-scan was insignificant, the coffee replaceable, the muffin discardable, the second-guesses meaningless. Ultimately that is also true about baseball, broadly, each and every game. Except this game, right now. "Soldiers, from the summit of yonder pyramids forty centuries look down upon you..." Rice baseball continues to rack up its impressive list of conference championships, tournament appearances, Regional and Super Regional victories against the largest schools, budgets and reputations in Texas baseball, and it achieved its unprecedented third straight appearance in Omaha, a distinction that it shares (only) with UNC in this decade, to once again go up against teams from State Universities with ten times the student body, media coverage, aspiring ballplayers every fall, and one-tenth the academic expectations. But none of those arguments help, right now. “Representative” wasn’t enough Tuesday, not for my team, not for my son. It just hurts.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/09 at 3:42 pm to
making coles daddy cry was the best moment of the cws last year
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