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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread

Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by YOURADHERE
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:31 pm to
Agreed, they had Lewis in a no-win spot there. If he pitted Max would’ve stayed out and took over P1. Given the situation Mercedes made the best call, every team would’ve left their driver out in the same situation.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84955 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:31 pm to
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Maybe the gap was larger, but maybe it was only 17 seconds.


They only needed 10 seconds for the PIT under VSC/SC to retain position.

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29838 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:32 pm to
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video of Toto partying


Is that from tonight? Dude is getting blackout drunk to forget. I'm not judging. Been there. Done that.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19511 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Is that from tonight?

yep. from instagram stories from 2-4 hours ago

Toto Crowdsurfing

another video of drunk Toto

Another video of Bottas being lifted by the crowd. Waiting for it to upload
Bottas

This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:47 pm to
I change my earlier statement. Toto is the Urban Meyer of F1
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29838 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:49 pm to
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1. Merc
2. RB
3. Mclaren
4. Aston Martin
5. Ferrari
6. Alipne
7. Alpha Tauri
8. Alfa
9. Williams
10. Haas


That was my pre-season ranking.

A big miss on Aston Martin. Terrible year for them after having so much promise.

Ferrari really surprised me. Sainz especially. Id have never predicted he would have finished ahead of Lecrec. A hell of a year from Sainz.

I expected more out of Mclaren because of Ricciardo coming on, but he didn't do all that great.

Alpine was solid. Nothing amazing. Glad to see Ocon get his win.

Tsunoda showed a lot of promise early on, but he didn't do all that great except today. Gasly quietly carrying the team on his back.

Alfa may have finished ahead of Williams had Kimi actually given a shite and we didn't have fake Spa results. He was mentally retired before this year.

Williams actually scoring points I don't recognize the Spa/Russell podium.

Haas was about as bad as everyone figured. Here's to hoping they have next year's car figured out.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:52 pm to
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A big miss on Aston Martin. Terrible year for them after having so much promise


Nah, regs put in place to take down Merc took them down as well. Didn't have the team to modify the car to compete.

Think Aston has been looking ahead since last January. There is talk of them developing their own engine as well. Stroll doesn't like the idea of being a customer team.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84955 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:53 pm to
Rewatching the race and it’s hilarious, now that the season is done, almost nobody is wearing masks…. DGAF now that they can’t be penalized.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:54 pm to
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Not true. Hence why he negotiated in Saudi rather than submit it to the stewards.


Your missing an important part. He said he wouldn’t submit it. They can still act in their own if they see fit but why would they if they see teams are self correcting. The stewards are under no obligation though to go through the racing director.

quote:

Revised Sporting Regulations issued by the FIA have confirmed that stewards will have the authority to investigate any incident deemed worthy of penalty in Formula 1 this season. The four-person stewarding panel will now be able to investigate any incident without it having been previously reported by race director Charlie Whiting. “The race director may report any on-track incident or suspected breach of these Sporting Regulations or the Code (an “Incident”) to the stewards,” reads the updated regulation. “After review it shall be at the discretion of the stewards to decide whether or not to proceed with an investigation. The stewards may also investigate an incident noted by themselves.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:58 pm to
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Your missing an important part. He said he wouldn’t submit it. They can still act in their own if they see fit but why would they if they see teams are self correcting


That's pretty much the same thing. It's a catchall, but nothing goes to the stewards without the race director culling it first.

I can't think of a situation where they overstepped the race director.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84955 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:59 pm to
Max’s dad def comes across as an a-hole…
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:04 pm to
I posted this meme earlier...



It is a play on Jos leaving, then child, Max at a karting track/gas station because of a bad performance.

They kind of laugh about it now, but Jos tells stories that would probably get you arrested in America today.


Probably some common ground betwen Lewis and Max on father issues.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 10:13 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115146 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:18 pm to
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I don't think I'm supposed to be chatting on here with such a well known political "n'er do well" such as you




Who knew I was persona non grata
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:18 pm to
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Gasly


My darkhorse favorite driver at the moment.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Get who out of the way of who...


I very much would feel comfortable making a good faith argument that the rules are designed to allow the back markers to get out of the way in a fight for the lead and when you have a chance to position 1 and 2 but not further back, you do it. Ive made worse arguments in court, maybe have made better, but Id easily make this argument. The counter argument is essentially, "We should have won the race because irrelevant cars further back didnt unlap (none of which protested), so give us the win" when the backmarkers that were relevant to the lead could and did get out of the way. Rule intent accomplished, Masi has that call to make per 15. whatever, and life can sometimes be unfair. Noone precluded Merc from changing tires, noone made Max pit 3 times, they each took chances, race director used his right to clear irrelevant cars. End of story.

Also, rules suck sometimes, like when Lewis got to unlap in Imola when he was dead in the water. Noone should be stealing Max's moment right now.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:34 pm to
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video of Toto partying

Wow, Sean Payton and Toto Wolff have completely different methods of coping. Didn't Payton lock himself up alone for a few days and stream Netflix continuously while eating buckets of icecream after one of those recent devastating Saints playoffs losses?

This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 10:34 pm
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19511 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:35 pm to
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Wow, Sean Payton and Toto Wolff have completely different methods of coping
well, Toto did win a record 8th constructor championship in a row today. So it's not all doom and gloom.

Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:45 pm to
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The more I have rewound the season in my mind the more comfortable I am with the outcome


This wouldnt have even been a discussion had Pirelli not tried to kill Max that one race.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:50 pm to
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