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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:12 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:12 pm to Street Hawk
With the pace he was running at this weekend, Mercedes could possibly take a new ice and 5 place penalty for every remaining race and easily make up those positions.
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:17 pm to fightin tigers
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Time for the shite-stirring to begin.
Hell yes.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 12:32 pm to GEAUXLPOST
quote:I had the same thought after watching LH charge through the field. With that kind of ridiculous speed and no spending cap, what's to stop them?
With the pace he was running at this weekend, Mercedes could possibly take a new ice and 5 place penalty for every remaining race and easily make up those positions.
There's no guarantee their tires will be up to the task in the desert, however.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:02 pm to Judge Mental
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With that kind of ridiculous speed and no spending cap, what's to stop them?
Interlagos gave the Merc's a large advantage to pull this off as well. Not sure if that translates on the last 3 tracks.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:07 pm to fightin tigers
Yeah, you can actually pass at Interlagos. Probably not much passing at Qatar. Who the frick knows about Jeddah. To be determined at the "new" Yas Marina.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:02 pm to BottomlandBrew
Alright fellas... here's Max's onboard camera... what do you think??
Based on steering input, Max doesnt even attempt to make the turn until he's almost off the track... a clear halfhearted effort in steering until he finally cranks the wheel when the job is done
FIA may not have had this angle at the time, but they DID have car telemetry at their disposal... including throttle, break, steering input, speed, etc etc
Now
Let the shitshow commence
Youtube
Based on steering input, Max doesnt even attempt to make the turn until he's almost off the track... a clear halfhearted effort in steering until he finally cranks the wheel when the job is done
FIA may not have had this angle at the time, but they DID have car telemetry at their disposal... including throttle, break, steering input, speed, etc etc
Now
Let the shitshow commence
Youtube
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:08 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
Karun Chadhok had a tweet earlier that said something towards lightly let off the brakes and let the steering wheel drift open, something every racer has done and would do in that situation.
Don't think he deserves a penalty, but I didn't think he deserved one at Monza, or Lewis at Silverstone.
Turning into the NFL with all this instant replay and over-analyzing data.
Don't think he deserves a penalty, but I didn't think he deserved one at Monza, or Lewis at Silverstone.
Turning into the NFL with all this instant replay and over-analyzing data.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:29 pm to fightin tigers
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Karun Chadhok had a tweet earlier that said something towards lightly let off the brakes and let the steering wheel drift open, something every racer has done and would do in that situation
100% every racer does this exact move dating back to karting days... it's one of the first things you learn
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Don't think he deserves a penalty, but I didn't think he deserved one at Monza, or Lewis at Silverstone.
Scott Mitchell was goin on about this yesterday and I think he's right... this is the real issue here... it's not so much the move Max pulled, it's how it's been enforced this year in particular... and now all of a sudden throw all those previous incidents and penalties are out the window
I get the FIA not wanting to get involved and have a "let them race" mentality... I actually like it, similar to the idea the best ref/ump is the one you dont notice... but they just decided to throw consistancy out the window with this one, so what are the drivers and teams going to expect for the remainder of the season?
I would love to listen in on the drivers pre-race meeting in Qatar
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:43 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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I would love to listen in on the drivers pre-race meeting in Qatar
I get why, but I wish they would broadcast those drivers meetings again.
I'd take those back over grid girls.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:48 am to TheArrogantCorndog
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Alright fellas... here's Max's onboard camera... what do you think??
Everyone is so fed up with Lewis winning that they put up with anything Max does.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 5:06 am to TheArrogantCorndog
Max braked so late that had he turned the wheel more, he'd have at minimum locked up and at worst gone into Hamilton. Hamilton braked really late too, but it looks like Hamilton may have had the control to make the turn. Anyways, yeah, I'm okay with the no-call when looking at this one incident. I'm less okay with it when looking at the season as a whole, which has seen several penalties for this exact thing.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
Merc to report to stewards tomorrow to present their case for the "new information"; 17:00 Qatar time. Translates to 8:00 CST.
Not a hearing to see if Max will be fined, a hearing to see if their is sufficient new information.
The Brazilian stewards will make the decision, not the Qatar stewards.
Postponed to at least 22:00 Qatar time
Decision to decide delayed until tomorrow
Motorsports.com
Not a hearing to see if Max will be fined, a hearing to see if their is sufficient new information.
The Brazilian stewards will make the decision, not the Qatar stewards.
Postponed to at least 22:00 Qatar time
Decision to decide delayed until tomorrow
Motorsports.com
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 11/19/21 at 4:16 am to fightin tigers
This weekends schedule CST
Qatar traditional breakfast is yougurt, cheeses, olives, coffee.
Qatar traditional breakfast is yougurt, cheeses, olives, coffee.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 4:20 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:57 am to fightin tigers
Decision is done, stewards denied their appeal.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 7:12 am to YOURADHERE
Just dropping in to say…
box box box
box box box
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:31 am to YOURADHERE
I agree that based on precedent from other incidents this year, Max could or should have been penalized. But it would have had to been a 5second penalty. He could have kept pushing in that race and maintained p2. Punishing after the fact for Brazil or grid penalty for Qatar would have been overly harsh in my opinion.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 9:45 am to fightin tigers
So I just listened to Albion talking about the Qatar track and he hinted that this track will be chaos to drive. He said it’s very difficult to see where the roads are going and it’s a very difficult track to learn.
He said all the turns are extremely awkward and don’t match turns for any other racetrack. He said they’re preparing for sand to be a major issue and that track limits will definitely be an issue. And that there are various aspects of the track that give Red Bull and Mercedes advantages. Also he said this isn’t a track where overtaking is going to be easy at all.
He said all the turns are extremely awkward and don’t match turns for any other racetrack. He said they’re preparing for sand to be a major issue and that track limits will definitely be an issue. And that there are various aspects of the track that give Red Bull and Mercedes advantages. Also he said this isn’t a track where overtaking is going to be easy at all.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:02 pm to athenslife101
I believe it was in FP1 that they were discussing adding track limits once they see where drivers were abusing going off track to gain an advantage but that the track makes it really difficult because there's not much for frame of reference in each turn to know if you will/will not be within the limits until its too late. Qualifying could be interesting tomorrow if some times start getting deleted.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:45 pm to YOURADHERE
Masi came out and said they have to stay inside the purple/white kerbs at all corners.
Should be interesting. Could see quali times deleted after each session since there will be so many areas for the stewards to police.
GP Drivers Association meeting tonight to discuss inconsistencies in stewarding. George going to present a powerpoint to Masi on findings.
Should be interesting. Could see quali times deleted after each session since there will be so many areas for the stewards to police.
GP Drivers Association meeting tonight to discuss inconsistencies in stewarding. George going to present a powerpoint to Masi on findings.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 11/19/21 at 2:32 pm to fightin tigers
quote:George is Gen Z, it's called a "slide deck"
George going to present a powerpoint to Masi on findings.
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