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re: Fight at end of Michigan-Wisconsin, Juwan Howard slaps a wisc assistant
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:10 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:10 pm to BuckyCheese
Honestly, one of the most racist things I keep seeing about this whole thing is the “you better expect something like this when you mess with someone from the Southside of Chicago” (or some variation). It’s not just “we can forgive/understand that reaction,” it’s “we should expect that reaction.”
Like how low can you think of a group of people, where we would expect that reaction of a nearly 50 year old man, especially one in his position, purely because of where he grew up and who lives there?
And I can guarantee you those people working in those neighborhoods trying to help young kids make better lives for themselves, are not only NOT expecting that, but they’re actively trying to make sure that is not an acceptable mindset. And it does a disservice to them to put out these odd, racist “expectations” of their behavior.
Like how low can you think of a group of people, where we would expect that reaction of a nearly 50 year old man, especially one in his position, purely because of where he grew up and who lives there?
And I can guarantee you those people working in those neighborhoods trying to help young kids make better lives for themselves, are not only NOT expecting that, but they’re actively trying to make sure that is not an acceptable mindset. And it does a disservice to them to put out these odd, racist “expectations” of their behavior.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 11:26 pm
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:18 pm to buckeye_vol
and once again ... being Black in America is an absolute PRIVILEGE.
the media will bend over backwards to defend and justify any wrongdoings you do.
the media will bend over backwards to defend and justify any wrongdoings you do.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:21 pm to buckeye_vol
Howard himself has said he was taught by his grandmother to escalate the situation.
50 year old multimillionaire basketball coach at a top university and he acts like a street thug while claiming "That's how I was raised."
Go back to the South Side Juwan.
50 year old multimillionaire basketball coach at a top university and he acts like a street thug while claiming "That's how I was raised."
Go back to the South Side Juwan.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:31 pm to The Boat
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A lot of blue check marks running with the “Juwan was disrespected when Gard touched him” narrative to excuse his behavior.
The whole “I got disrespected” mindset is why that culture has as many problems as they do.
Yep. And even that pussy argument is a reach in this case considering Howard instigated the "disrespect".
Had Howard stopped pressing, Gard wouldn't have called the timeout that made Howard so butthurt.
Had Howard not talked shite to Gard in the handshake line, Gard wouldn't have grabbed Howard's elbow.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:36 pm to ZIGG
quote:I don’t really buy this. Maybe for Juwan Howard and those in a convenient and privileged situation, or the random situation that gets picked up nationally that the left rallies behind, but not your average black person.
and once again ... being Black in America is an absolute PRIVILEGE.
the media will bend over backwards to defend and justify any wrongdoings you do.
Of course, that’s probably true for every group to some degree though (a few actually have the privilege and get the benefit).
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:38 pm to buckeye_vol
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but not your average black person.
Your average person cant go to work and assault someone and not get fired. This has nothing to do with race.
I cant go to work and just attack someone
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:39 pm to Deactived
quote:For sure.
Your average person cant go to work and assault someone and not get fired.
quote:I made this argument when someone (in response to someone else saying it was assault/battery), that I probably would have gotten arrested for that at work, but I was told our arguments crazy. I even said I don’t think he would get charged, but it was basically the textbook definition of battery.
I cant go to work and just attack someone
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:56 pm to buckeye_vol
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Honestly, one of the most racist things I keep seeing about this whole thing is the “you better expect something like this when you mess with someone from the Southside of Chicago” (or some variation). It’s not just “we can forgive/understand that reaction,” it’s “we should expect that reaction.”
Like how low can you think of a group of people, where we would expect that reaction of a nearly 50 year old man, especially one in his position, purely because of where he grew up and who lives there?
And I can guarantee you those people working in those neighborhoods trying to help young kids make better lives for themselves, are not only NOT expecting that, but they’re actively trying to make sure that is not an acceptable mindset. And it does a disservice to them to put out these odd, racist “expectations” of their behavior.
I have friends who live on the Southside. I have friends whose family members live on the Southside. My dad taught on the Southside for nearly 20 years.
There are good working class people of all races who have a lot of pride being from there, but most of them would resent the notion that it's acceptable to act like an idiot because of it.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:59 pm to buckeye_vol
I will preface this by saying I am conservative politically and the BLM movement detests me. That being said, Juwan Howard should not be fired.
Bottom line is there is no way in hell guys like Coach K, Izzo or Calipari would be fired if they did the same thing. Certain guys have different rules.
Howard is probably the most high profile black coach in the country. The same rules that apply to guys like K, Izzo and Calipari should apply to Howard.
Bottom line is there is no way in hell guys like Coach K, Izzo or Calipari would be fired if they did the same thing. Certain guys have different rules.
Howard is probably the most high profile black coach in the country. The same rules that apply to guys like K, Izzo and Calipari should apply to Howard.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:07 am to BayouCatFan
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The same rules that apply to guys like K, Izzo and Calipari should apply to Howard.
I don't recall any of them taking a swing at an opposing coach.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:10 am to BayouCatFan
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Bottom line is there is no way in hell guys like Coach K, Izzo or Calipari would be fired if they did the same thing. Certain guys have different rules.
Howard is probably the most high profile black coach in the country. The same rules that apply to guys like K, Izzo and Calipari should apply to Howard.
That is tough to state as a fact considering none of them would ever physically attack an opposing coach. They've been around the game long enough by now. If it was going to happen, it would've happened.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:17 am to TigersSEC2010
You would have to go back to Bobby Knight to get anywhere close to this and the only physical altercation he had in public I’m aware of was tossing an LSU fan in a trash can circa 1981.
Most of his other shite was thrown chairs or screaming if it was in a public facing event.
Most of his other shite was thrown chairs or screaming if it was in a public facing event.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:25 am to BayouCatFan
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Bottom line is there is no way in hell guys like Coach K, Izzo or Calipari would be fired if they did the same thing. Certain guys have different rules
I guess we will have to wait until they attack an opposing coach to know if your fact is indeed a fact
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:33 am to teke184
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You would have to go back to Bobby Knight to get anywhere close to this and the only physical altercation he had in public I’m aware of was tossing an LSU fan in a trash can circa 1981.
Most of his other shite was thrown chairs or screaming if it was in a public facing event.
And that when it came out he laid hands on one of his players, Indiana fired him. Ohio State fired Hayes after he laid hands on an opposing player. Both of them accomplished far more as coaches at their respective schools when they were fired too. And both of them were white, it's not even a race issue. It's ridiculous it's being made a race issue. He had a lot of separation and time to walk away, but still went out of his way to swim through people in front of him to throw a hand at an opposing coach and it's not even the first time he's been in a similar situation.
I'd be absolutely embarrassed to have that guy be my coach. It's bad enough that you got your arse kicked on the court but now your coach is making an arse of himself after the game all over some "unwritten rules" which are the dumbest thing ever as it is but add to it that he's called timeouts late in games with a big lead himself and was still full pressing Wisconsin's backups this game. Howard has shown his arse so bad and there really isn't any defending him, and by proxy anyone trying to defend him is showing their arse too.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 12:35 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:43 am to WaterLink
Howard is the leader of the program and he escalated and prolonged the incident
you simply cant do that as the head of a program
you simply cant do that as the head of a program
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:48 am to teke184
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You would have to go back to Bobby Knight to get anywhere close to this and the only physical altercation he had in public I’m aware of was tossing an LSU fan in a trash can circa 1981.
Most of his other shite was thrown chairs or screaming if it was in a public facing event.
And when the Neil Reed tape came out, Knight was hammered by the media. Like Woody before him, he didn't get any rope because of his accomplishments. They weren't excused just because of their upbringings, or because they were "old school".
Fast forward to present day, and Juwan Howard's actions are being defended because he's from the Southside of Chicago, he was "disrespected", and that's how his grandma raised him. What a load of horseshite.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:49 am to ZIGG
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being Black in America is an absolute PRIVILEGE.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:19 am to WestCoastAg
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Michigan basketball's Juwan Howard didn't apologize for postgame scuffle at Wisconsin
He should be fired. There is no excuse.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:38 am to WestCoastAg
quote:quote:
being Black in America is an absolute PRIVILEGE
I mean, educational standards have been lowered for their benefit. Organizations have created quotas and jobs for their benefit. Many are receiving literal get-out-of-jail-free cards over the last couple of years. They're over-represented in media and sports compared to the national population. Retail chains and communities promote their businesses simply for being "black owned". The media deflects blame for their documented issues.
I'm sure I'm leaving out some perks, but it's not a terrible gig these days.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:20 am to BayouCatFan
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Bottom line is there is no way in hell guys like Coach K, Izzo or Calipari would be fired if they did the same thing. Certain guys have different rules.
No they wouldn’t because they’ve never done it. Howard is ghetto trash and now we get to learn if society has any lines in the sand left. Probably not since people like you think this is acceptable.
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