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Posted on 7/18/09 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/18/09 at 7:20 pm to
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a mixture of glue and broken glass before the fight.


Honey/M&Ms
Posted by aibo synthetic
into bolivian
Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 8:11 pm to
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...........and the two of them are going to dip their wrapped hands in a mixture of glue and broken glass before the fight.


He did say "winner take all". It makes sense.

The whole thing makes sense.
Posted by HarnessedInSlums
Member since Apr 2009
215 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 9:23 pm to
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There are multiple reasons why offering Fedor a one fight deal is a bad idea. Do we really need to explain them to you?


Yeah, why don't you give it a try, Einstein.

All I've heard so far is the UFC heavyweight division would have too much to lose in terms of credibility in potentially losing a one-off match against Fedor.

That's one decent reason, I suppose. Fear.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 9:29 pm to
Fedor wins and is never heard from again by the UFC. DO you honestly think that is a good thing from Zuffa's perspective??? I mean Fedor would be favored in a one fight scenario and the odds of just that happening are pretty likely.
Posted by HarnessedInSlums
Member since Apr 2009
215 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 9:57 pm to
I think it's in Zuffa's best interest to keep growing their sport and world interest in it, even if it means tarnishing their own brand with a loss to a respected fighter. A Fedor-Brock fight does that. It tells the world that the UFC is the greatest MMA organization out there and will do anything to give their fans the best fights possible.

If Brock goes on to be a long-term champ and dominates the UFC for a few years while Fedor does the same in Affliction, and the opportunity to put them against each other is lost, the sport might suffer. Casual fans don't like to wait around for questions to be answered when it will never happen.

Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/18/09 at 10:23 pm to
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I think it's in Zuffa's best interest to keep growing their sport and world interest in it, even if it means tarnishing their own brand with a loss to a respected fighter. A Fedor-Brock fight does that. It tells the world that the UFC is the greatest MMA organization out there and will do anything to give their fans the best fights possible.

If Brock goes on to be a long-term champ and dominates the UFC for a few years while Fedor does the same in Affliction, and the opportunity to put them against each other is lost, the sport might suffer. Casual fans don't like to wait around for questions to be answered when it will never happen.


I agree 100% and this is exactly what I have been saying in other threads. Short term it MAY hurt the UFC in a one-off if Fedor wins. But it may not. Every real fight fan knows the UFC HW division is not what it could be and the best and probably 2nd best HW are not even in it. So, from a credibility perspective, the UFC is constantly hurt with no Fedor anyway. And the "superfight" this would be billed as would generate more interest than ANY UFC event ever.

And that can't be a bad thing for the UFC at the end of the day.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30108 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 8:03 am to
I'd be willing to bet that over half the people watching a UFC PPV still don't even know who Fedor is. Yes, the people who keep up with it do, but I really don't think that is as high a percentage as you think it is. Bottom line is as everyone has been saying it is. UFC doesn't NEED to cave on anything to anyone.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15502 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 10:45 am to
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UFC doesn't NEED to cave on anything to anyone.


+1

Hardcore fans will wait for the matchup between Lesnar-Fedor. Lesnar needs a few more fights anyway so there is no big time rush. If the fight never happens, UFC will still be miles and miles ahead of Affliction and Strikeforce.

They just need to take their time and get a multi-fight deal so they can get a rematch. Doesn't matter who wins or loses people are going to want to see an immediate rematch.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 12:57 pm to
Ok, fine. "UFC does not need to cave". They can just keep sticking their own head up their arse and pissing off fight fans by not making the fights we want to see happen. I have been a long time fight fan. Boxing fan in the 80's and been watching UFC ppv since UFC 3. Watched Pride/Dream fights and all of it. I have not forgotten how Don King did more to ruin boxing than any single person due to his ego and bullshite with contracts. He prevented the boxing superfight of two decades between Holyfield and Tyson in their prime until years later after Tyson went to prison. I never forgot that and I will not forget that I get more and more frustrated with the UFC every year when I hear about them fricking their fighters (since they are the only big game in town), their top fighters wanting to leave (just for some insight to show a pattern, go back and look at all the comments by Couture about White and UFC contracts), them not being able to put on the HW superfights fans want.

Hey, the UFC can keep fricking themselves and keeping the org from being as good as it can all they want. Nothing I can do about it but be pissed I am deprived of seeing fights when they should happen, not years later or never.
This post was edited on 7/19/09 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8087 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 6:44 pm to
it's been said like 5 times already but fedor is virtually unknown to 80% of ufc's ppv buyers. The ufc does not have to do shite with fedor. Besides if they don't do anything now and fedor beats barnett, fedor will slowly lose credibility since there is really not anyone else for him outside of the ufc.

Dana really has all the power right now. Any way it goes down, he wins, and that is why the ufc is the force it is.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 8:14 pm to
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Dana really has all the power right now. Any way it goes down, he wins


This is fricking retarded and I could not disagree more.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37635 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 8:16 pm to
We get it. You don't like Dana White.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/19/09 at 8:22 pm to
Good deal. Wasn't sure if that was coming across, but now I am happy.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15502 posts
Posted on 7/20/09 at 9:05 am to
If you think Dana doesn't have all the power RIGHT NOW, then you are not being sarcastic. You must really hate Dana not to see that.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37635 posts
Posted on 7/20/09 at 9:12 am to
The UFC has very little to gain from a one fight contract from Fedor. The people who want to see him fight are the ones already buying ppv's. His name would generate very few additional ppv buys.

Fedor would however gain a tremendous amount of name recongnition as a result of the fight(win or lose). If he elected not to re-up with the UFC after the fight that name recognition as a result of UFC exposure would benefit- Fedor, and Affliction/Strikeforce/etc. Pretty much everyone but the UFC.

This is not directed at you Smack, it is for the ones who blindly hate on Dana.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21028 posts
Posted on 7/20/09 at 9:47 am to
For those who think it's a good idea for the UFC to sign Fedor to a one fight deal, I am glad you don't run the company I work for.
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