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Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:19 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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I've fallen asleep both times attending a NASCAR race @ Texas, the entire crowd was fully engaged the whole race last night.
I went to a NASCAR race myself at TMS years ago and people all around me were sleeping in the stands. They would wake up for a wreck/caution, get all riled up for the restart, then go back to sleep
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:19 pm to johnnydrama
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quote: Indy is for a different breed/class of people, to put it frankly. No. You're thinking about sailboat racing. Motor racing fans are all pretty much the same.
Crowd was very 'NASCAR-Esq" last night. Saw a bunch of asians too, they went nuts when Sato came out of his bus
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:31 pm to Honky Lips
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Also the Indy racing is much more exciting....way more position changes and you get 4, sometimes 5 wide racing.
Oh man you couldn't be more wrong. There is no passing at TMs in the Indy series. It may have been different after the repave but it is typically the most boring race with no passing.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:31 pm to Rig
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This is perfectly put by someone who has never actually been to an Indy car race. Because if you've been you'd know this isn't true
i've been to barbers every year since it's been run. the crowd is very different than what i've seen the 3 times i've been to dega.
indy is fun to watch on road circuits, on ovals it's a challenge to stay awake. don't know why, just is.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:39 pm to Alabama Slim
quote:even at Indianapolis itself?
on ovals it's a challenge to stay awake. don't know why,
My theory is that Americans like NASCAR more bc it looks more like the cars they drive
Posted on 6/11/17 at 12:45 pm to Honky Lips
FWIW: F1 Canadian GP is about to start on NBC
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:05 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
I like NASCAR, but I also enjoy F1. I haven't really watched either in a while though. F1 racing is typically at odd hours to it's international appeal.
But to answer your question, NASCAR is more physical. Those cars can rub and beat and bang on each other. I think that's gotta have something to do with it.
But to answer your question, NASCAR is more physical. Those cars can rub and beat and bang on each other. I think that's gotta have something to do with it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:18 pm to Honky Lips
The lack of fans in the stands for that race are an excellent example of why people wanted Bernie Eccleston the frick out of the sport.
*Edit*
yes, I'm a fool and got it wrong.
*Edit*
yes, I'm a fool and got it wrong.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:26 pm to Dr RC
I think you're confusing indycar with F1. Ecclestone was never involved with Indy.
The F1 race in Austin packs in monster crowds.
The F1 race in Austin packs in monster crowds.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:41 pm to TigerFred
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Oh man you couldn't be more wrong. There is no passing at TMs in the Indy series. It may have been different after the repave but it is typically the most boring race with no passing.
Some of the best IndyCar racing I've ever seen has been at Texas, going back to the IRL days.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 1:43 pm to Honky Lips
yea I'm dumb. I'll leave it up to take my shots.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:08 pm to Dr RC
What she the difference between Formula Ine and Indy? The cars look the same to me. Either way, they both are susceptible to some amazing and disasterous wrecks.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:19 pm to supadave3
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What she the difference between Formula Ine and Indy? The cars look the same to me. Either way, they both are susceptible to some amazing and disasterous wrecks.
F1 teams cost about $100 million a year to run, while an Indycar team runs on just a few million. F1 has Very technical turbo v6 engines w/ electric KERS systems. Indycar is a twin turbo v6 only and are a bit heavier due to the down force needed on ovals.
F1 keeps the fans far away from the drivers and pits. While indycar let's people buy pit passes and get up close and personal right in the garages with the teams. I met a bunch of the Indy drivers in the pits, it was nice how much access Indy allows fans to have.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:26 pm to FightinTigersDammit
I have a season ticket holder at Texas. for the last 10 years. I skipped last years June weekend because of weather and this year because of another conflict. But in the eight previous Indy races between 2008 and 2015 I cannot recall one of them being a good race.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 2:55 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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What's the cultural appeal with NASCAR over open-wheel racing?
NASCAR has always had a good regional following in the South, and a decent amount of fans spread all over.
Then a couple of things happened in the 90's. First, the Indy cars split into 2 series. The best teams and drivers remained in CART, and a bunch of no name drivers & upstart teams founded the Indy Car series. The new Indy series used the Indianapolis 500 to build credibility. Basically a driver couldn't compete in the Indy 500 unless he also competed in the new series. That left the best teams & drivers out of the biggest race.
Secondly, NASCAR was probably entering its zenith around the same time. Drivers like Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace, Bill Elliot, etc were still competing, while new drivers like Jeff Gordon were making a huge splash. NASCAR started expanding into new markets & new tracks. NASCAR marketed itself as accessible and fan friendly, while Indy Car was the opposite. NASCAR popularity exploded.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:06 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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F1 teams cost about $100 million a year to run
It's probably more like 500-600 million for the top teams.
I did watch some of the race last night. There was passing at the end but who won? Power, the guy with the preferred line. It was impossible to do anything other than pull up along side of him.
It was somewhat exciting at the end but that is always the worst race of the year. They shouldn't waste their time on ovals other than Indianapolis.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:14 pm to Honky Lips
As a NASCAR fan I'm sure there are more fans in attendance for those races but I'm not so sure that it is "packed" for them
Fact is it's in Texas, prolly a lot more "racin" fans there than open wheel fans
Fact is it's in Texas, prolly a lot more "racin" fans there than open wheel fans
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:16 pm to TigerFred
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I have a season ticket holder at Texas. for the last 10 years. I skipped last years June weekend because of weather and this year because of another conflict. But in the eight previous Indy races between 2008 and 2015 I cannot recall one of them being a good race.
Apparently, the racing is a lot better on TV.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 3:21 pm to JoeHackett
The top cars run $125mm per car
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