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re: Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL's top 10 QBs for 2025
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:08 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:08 am to RLDSC FAN
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I still like Love quite a bit. I think his knee injury in week1 affected him all year. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does this year.
He's not a bad QB but he won't be the 3rd HoF QB in a row for the Packers.
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Didn't they know that Nuss is a better QB?
Daniels had a good, but not great 2022 season. His biggest issue was being far too risk-averse in the passing game. He had 80 yards passing vs. Auburn. 86 vs. Arkansas. He wasn't consistently lighting up the scoreboard. I wasn't one of them, but I could understand why some fans at that time didn't fully trust a guy who, at times, looked more RB than QB.
It all clicked in 2023 and the rest is history. But it's easy to take a "victory lap" with the benefit of hindsight.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:39 am to TheWalrus
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If Mahomes didn’t have the multiple Super Bowls, he’s not top 5 on this list.
When the QB puts up big stats but the defense is ranked 30 we say the QB can’t win, but they upgrade the D, he doesn’t have to put up sick numbers but the team wins, we say he’s not that great anymore
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:50 am to H-Town Tiger
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When the QB puts up big stats but the defense is ranked 30 we say the QB can’t win, but they upgrade the D, he doesn’t have to put up sick numbers but the team wins, we say he’s not that great anymore
I think this argument is disingenuous. He has a great offensive line, decent skill group, and it's not like they stopped throwing the ball/became risk averse. Watching the games, he's not making the same accurate passes on the intermediate level like he was 2 years ago.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:54 am to H-Town Tiger
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When the QB puts up big stats but the defense is ranked 30 we say the QB can’t win, but they upgrade the D, he doesn’t have to put up sick numbers but the team wins, we say he’s not that great anymore
There were just stretches over the last few years where he simply wasn’t elite period. He played poorly and was bailed out by the defense as opposed to “not putting up sick numbers.” It doesn’t mean he’s bad but he sure as hell wasn’t great doing those stretches either. It’s ok to say he hasn’t played as well over the last few years.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:02 am to 632627
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Burrow is a stud, but he's played almost his entire career with one of the best receiving trios in the league.
Trio?? Who’s #3? Please don’t say Boyd.
Also, Higgins is consistently hurt.
It’s also disingenuous to say that Allen has no talent on offense.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:12 am to St Augustine
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There were just stretches over the last few years where he simply wasn’t elite period. He played poorly and was bailed out by the defense as opposed to “not putting up sick numbers
Sure but youre talking about individual games, in one of my FFB leagues someone cut Mahomes last year and he sat out there for a couple of weeks
but ranking the best QB imo is more a big picture and fwiw he did make plays in some critical games along the way to 3 straight SB. But let’s be honest most of those that will question Allen being ranked there will say it’s because he hasn’t won right? I just find it funny that someone says Mahomes is only there because he won when not winning is held against QBs.This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:26 am to lsupride87
Yeah, Mahomes has to bounce back this year. In my mind he’s already lost that top spot to Allen
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:29 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Mahomes threw a shite ton of picks without throwing a shite ton of tds
H-Town Tiger
In no way is that good or playing to win etc.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:56 am to lsupride87
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Mahomes threw a shite ton of picks
In 2023 he threw 14 that’s his high for a season and 27 TDs. he threw 2 picks in 3 games they were 2-1 in those games they also won the last game that season and he threw zero picks in 2 road play off game.
That same season Allen threw 18 picks with 29 TDs
If the ranking is for the 2024 season I 100% agree Mahomes was not the best.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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2023 he threw 14 that’s his high for a season and 27 TDs.
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That same season Allen threw 18 picks with 29 TDs
Way to not even try and be honest
2023
Allen
44 tds—18 picks—
Mahomes 2023
27 tds—14 picks
Over last two seasons total
Allen
84 tds—24 ints
Mahomes
55 tds—25 ints
That isn’t the same stratosphere
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Didn't they know that Nuss is a better QB?
You don't know that he's not.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:05 pm to Alt26
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It all clicked in 2023 and the rest is history. But it's easy to take a "victory lap" with the benefit of hindsight.
I guarantee you SFP has receipts. He was one of the most prominent JD5 truthers on the rant. Iirc He was one arguing his 2022 season was in fact elite Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:11 pm to lsupride87
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Way to not even try and be honest
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That same season Allen threw 18 picks with 29 TDs
Says the guy that ignores the word threw
I’m not going to get into a pissing contest with a Bills fan over Allen. I have no qualms with anyone saying Allen is the best QB in the league right now. He’s probably the one I’d rank 1.
My initial comment was simply that’s it’s funny that people will rag on QBs that put up big stats and don’t win and then we turn around and say this guy that won without putting up big stats isn’t so great anymore
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:12 pm to Jcorye1
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I think this argument is disingenuous. He has a great offensive line, decent skill group, and it's not like they stopped throwing the ball/became risk averse. Watching the games, he's not making the same accurate passes on the intermediate level like he was 2 years ago.
Lol, no the KC OL isn't great, it wasn't even good last year. Center and the 2 guards were great until Thuney moved from LG to LT. The skill group was very good until Rice tore his acl in week 4. Mahomes didn't even have a good running game last year to take some pressure off being ranked 22nd. The last 3 years they've been a defensive led team so that dictated how he's played. If Burrow or Allen had been to 7 straight AFC Championship games and 5 of last 6 SB's this board would never shut up about it.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Im consistent
My initial comment was simply that’s it’s funny that people will rag on QBs that put up big stats and don’t win and then we turn around and say this guy that won without putting up big stats doesn’t isn’t so great anymore
I rag on any moron that doesn’t judge a player based on what they actually contribute and instead use team success
Mahomes was ELITE until 2022. The best QB play ever. He has not been elite the last two years.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:15 pm to lsupride87
And you weren’t the one that made the comment initially replied to.
Fair enough and it’s hard to argue with that.
But, if you have to start a team from scratch and get to pick any QB Mahomes would be one of the first 3-4 at worst.
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Mahomes was ELITE until 2022. The best QB play ever. He has not been elite the last two years.
Fair enough and it’s hard to argue with that.
But, if you have to start a team from scratch and get to pick any QB Mahomes would be one of the first 3-4 at worst.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:39 pm to nosaj
As a trio, chase, Boyd and Higgins were one of the league's best
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:47 pm to Chad504boy
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Didn't they know that Nuss is a better QB?
You don't know that he's not.
Damn too much Mahomes stuff, missed this gem
ETA we do in fact know Daniels was better in 2023
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:53 pm to lsubatman1
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I just dont understand how burreaux keeps getting listed behind allen on these list. Anyone with 2 eyeballs and even half a brain can see allen isnt as good!
Obviously, the author of this list is biased against gays.
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