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re: "Every Big Ten athletic director was in favor of playing a fall football season."
Posted on 8/23/20 at 1:01 am to KillerNut9
Posted on 8/23/20 at 1:01 am to KillerNut9
Yeah, Warren's just the fall guy here. The presidents seriously misread the field
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:09 am to Scoob
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Yeah, Warren's just the fall guy here. The presidents seriously misread the field
Sorry, but he's the guy that the Presidents are paying big bucks, so they don't misread the field.
I cant see all 14 SEC or ACC athletic directors, being opposed to an issue, any issue. And then having the commissioner unilaterally dictate the cancellation of those all sports.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:10 am to MetrySaint24
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Seasoned athletic veterans like Moos, Wisconsin’s Barry Alvarez, Penn State’s Sandy Barbour and Ohio State’s Gene Smith were left out of key discussions that shaped the league’s decisions.
This was a meeting where Kevin Warren ramrodded the outcome he wanted.
The report is not from some random dude on a Reddit thread. It comes from the leading Big-10/Nebraska Beat Writer for Warren Buffett's newspaper, the Omaha World-Herald.
Kevin Warren is the most political college Commissioner I can recall. His first move was to essentially require every Big-10 athlete to register to vote. His second was to initiate an Anti-Racism, Anti-Hate policy in the conference - lofty Social Justice Warrior goals, but way out of his lane as a sports administrator.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 6:12 am
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:34 am to KillerNut9
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Not sure what exactly happened but I’d be willing to bet the presidents are realizing Warren was a piss poor hire simply off how badly he’s handled the entire thing.
They should look in the mirror. The schools did this.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:56 am to Indefatigable
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They should look in the mirror. The schools did this.
bullshite.
Warren busted into the Big-10 as a Take-Charge Alpha-Male and he shite his pants in his first Summer on the job.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Based solely on the article, it sounds like he was rigging the process to get the outcome he wanted.
The ADs and the Presidents speaking separately is strange.
The ADs and the Presidents speaking separately is strange.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:44 am to Lima Whiskey
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The ADs and the Presidents speaking separately is strange
This makes me think it’s all an “Oh shite let’s blame someone” from the presidents.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:47 am to Buckeye Jeaux
All of that may be true, but he doesn’t make this call without the blessings of the presidents. This may be his agenda, but they signed off
Posted on 8/23/20 at 7:50 am to Lima Whiskey
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Based solely on the article, it sounds like he was rigging the process to get the outcome he wanted.
It was a fast shuffle switch to a stacked deck.
I think the presidents are embarrassed to reveal that they were bamboozled by Warren.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:05 am to usc6158
Yep this is ADs trying to salvage recruiting. No way the presidents and ADs didn’t speak before.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:14 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I thought the only athletic directors in favor of playing were Nebraska and Iowa? Or was that the presidents?
Nevertheless, they need to just bury their hand in the sand, lick their wounds, and keep quiet. They made a mistake by making a decision way too early, and they need to just own it and learn from it.
Nevertheless, they need to just bury their hand in the sand, lick their wounds, and keep quiet. They made a mistake by making a decision way too early, and they need to just own it and learn from it.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:26 am to GentleJackJones
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I thought the only athletic directors in favor of playing were Nebraska and Iowa?
Nope. All of them were in favor according to the Nebraska beat writer. And they were kept separate from the admins and the medical people
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they need to just own it and learn from it.
Why would they need to own it. There is a full month before major teams play. And teams are still practicing.
They need to send Warren on a long trip to the South Pacific, and get on with the football season.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 8:30 am
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:33 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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All of them were in favor according to the Nebraska beat writer. And they were kept separate from the admins and the medical people
You do understand that this makes each individual schools administrators more incompetent not less right? Three school employees can’t get on a phone (or god forbid meet in person given they work in the same college town) and talk to each other about a multi million dollar decision affecting hundreds of employees but a new hire that is not a direct university nor state employee on a zoom call can.
Putting all the blame on warren makes this all worse not better.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:36 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Not buying it. No commissioner comes into a P5 conference and cancels FALL FOOTBALL without almost unanimous backing and support from the institutions.quote:
They should look in the mirror. The schools did this.
bullshite.
Warren busted into the Big-10 as a Take-Charge Alpha-Male and he shite his pants in his first Summer on the job.
If he truly did, the murmers that took a week to arise would have been screams by that first evening, and he'd have already been fired.
This wasn't deciding whether women's golf should have their championship in Michigan or Ohio in 2024, and you could possibly skate it through.
This is their conference lifeblood.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:48 am to Scoob
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If he truly did, the murmers that took a week to arise would have been screams by that first evening, and he'd have already been fired.
They are screaming, and he will be fired (or have his authority diminished to counting paper clips). And the news that Warren kept the admins, ADs, and medical pros on separate feeds just broke yesterday.
The new president of Ohio State starts within about a week. Many expect another major push to save the season when she takes charge. BTW, she's a former NCAA athlete at Stanford - field hockey and lacrosse.
It ain't brain surgery. They could start a 10 game season in October, and be finished by the first week in December.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 9:00 am
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:13 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:That's my point- the universities didn't need for someone to "break the news" to them, it happened to them. You already know if you submitted a vote or not.quote:
If he truly did, the murmers that took a week to arise would have been screams by that first evening, and he'd have already been fired.
They are screaming, and he will be fired (or have his authority diminished to counting paper clips). And the news that Warren kept the admins, ADs, and medical pros on separate feeds just broke yesterday.
And if he did as is now suggested, no, he doesn't get to count paperclips. He packs his shite and clears out of the office by noon.
This is just the conference and universities trying to backtrack, and keep the heat off the member institutions.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:17 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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This thing isn't over.
It was over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Warren is like Hess right now, trying to figure out how his leader became deranged
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:19 am to sms151t
We are at Aug 23. Unless teams are still going full out practicing, I just can't see it. The conference probably figures if they can stave off the public for another week or two, then it will be too late to put anything together.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:22 am to Scoob
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That's my point- the universities didn't need for someone to "break the news" to them,
The news was broken to the general public yesterday. The spotlight is now on the meeting/fiasco that resulted in the apparent loss of a football season at Ohio State for the first time in 130 years.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:22 am to Bunk Moreland
The B1G aren’t playing. It’s over. They will attempt it in Winter Spring. People are forgetting there’s state regulations that still need to be followed and they won’t allow MI IL and others to play.
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