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re: ESPN: How Alabama moved from Nick Saban to Kalen DeBoer in 49 hours

Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1855 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:58 am to
Won't happen. We'll hire another young G5 HC or a "head coach in waiting, we swear!" coordinator.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34774 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:01 pm to
As a UGA fan, I don't want Lane anywhere near UF.

But yeah you're probably right.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6987 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Oh, and Saban was a cheater. Level playing field does not work for him.


He just won the SEC with his third worst team ever and Jalen Milroe at QB
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:19 pm to
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False equivalency. Coaches grind in the profession to make it to that high leverage position - they get paid and treated like dirt early on in their careers, with rewards at the back end.


Coaching contracts are based on potential. Look around and see all the buyouts being paid for failed coaches.

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Players have proven nothing in that regard. They want, and now get it, day 1. Not saying it's right/wrong, but the "coaches do it" argument is extremely fallible.


Proven nothing? Do you think Alabama just hands out scholarships and NIL to anyone wearing a junior high football uniform? You don't get to wear an SEC football uniform unless you have proven yourself at the level before you (JUST LIKE A COACH)
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Not saying it's right/wrong, but the "coaches do it" argument is extremely fallible.


The parallels are closer than you realize. The only difference is the players have a shorter window to make that money and none of them are getting contracts guaranteed for tens of millions like the coaches. Most players have 4-5 years to make some money.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21314 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Saban was protected by the his buddies at the NCAA for years and allowed to play by a different set of rules. A level playing field must have been tough to swallow.


Same set of rules probably the top 40 athletic programs also enjoyed. If you’re nationally relevant in football or men’s basketball, the NCAA stopped jacking with you about 30 years ago. As long as you weren’t out and open about it.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7479 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:49 pm to
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What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?"

...

"So I'm saying to myself, 'Maybe this doesn't work anymore, me making $10 million a year with a private jet and my players making 0$, living in a dorm room, eating at the dining hall
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6618 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:53 pm to
Lane turning down Florida State to stay at Ole Miss might have been the death nail to the ACC.
Posted by Krane
Member since Oct 2017
892 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:54 pm to
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my players making 0$, living in a dorm room, eating at the dining hall

Yeah I heard Bama players had to panhandle to even get a McDouble
Posted by Remulan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
787 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:55 pm to
I would kill to eat every meal from the "dining hall" that Alabama football players eat at.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13496 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:10 pm to
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It wouldn’t shock me if some 55-60 year old established coaches that have made almost $100M over their careers say frick it, I’m coaching HS in the future.



Or become coordinators that aren't expected to recruit nearly as much (See: Chip Kelly).
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8216 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:28 pm to
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He just won the SEC with his third worst team ever and Jalen Milroe at QB


Saban is the greatest coach of all-time, and while the Milroe part is true, that roster was still the most talented in all of college football.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35564 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Saban was protected by the his buddies at the NCAA for years and allowed to play by a different set of rules. A level playing field must have been tough to swallow.


People think the NCAA infractions committee is some independent organization.

Nope.

Just like the FBI, they're corrupted... And actually just former ADs and administrators and presidents installed by "friends of the program". The SEC was ahead of the game...and realized, you don't hide from the NCAA, you BUY the NCAA just like your players.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10450 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:36 pm to
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Ole Miss beating Bama two years in a row, then being investigated was as predictable as death and taxes.


Are you fricking serious? Stevie Wonder could have seen the shite the Rev was doing at Ole Piss with that recruiting class they signed from a mile away.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71860 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:42 pm to
Poor Nick. I feel so bad for him and his millions and millions in the bank.

What a fricking joke. He cannot operate unless he has dictator control. He’s losing that(like everyone else is too) so he abruptly quits.

Give me a fricking break man
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13496 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:44 pm to
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"So I'm saying to myself, 'Maybe this doesn't work anymore, me making $10 million a year with a private jet and my players making 0$, living in a dorm room, eating at the dining hall


With unlimited access to world class trainers, tutors, free college education, and private chefs for every meal. Oh and smoothie/snack bar in between meals. All free.

Spare me the bullshite about them having a tough go at it.

Posted by LawDawg1
Member since Apr 2009
513 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:00 pm to
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alabama had known for months that saban was leaving. Acting like this happened swiftly from zero to completion in 2 days is ridiculous.


Especially with DeBoer rejecting a huge pay raise mid-season and again around Thanksgiving WITHOUT any counter-offer...
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8767 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Ole Miss beating Bama two years in a row, then being investigated was as predictable as death and taxes. Beyond laughable how obvious the NCAA and SEC makes the agenda.


Are you just gonna pretend Ole Miss wasn't dirty as frick?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37558 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Stevie Wonder could have seen the shite the Rev was doing at Ole Piss with that recruiting class they signed from a mile away.


Kind of like your 2007 class no? Saban comes in, goes 6-6 with losses to ULM, and y’all just happened to sign the best class in the country?
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:36 pm to
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"I thought we could have a hell of a team next year, and then maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring, and how much are you going to pay me?"


frick everyone who supported pay for play and unlimited transfers. You ruined college football forever.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30173 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:43 pm to
When college football implodes in the next 10 to 15 years, the race-baiting hustlers and SJW do-gooders who pushed NIL and unlimited transfers will simply move on to their next crusade of destruction. They won't care about the thousands of minority athletes who no longer have an avenue to a college education. They'll just pat themselves on the back and tell each other how virtuous they are.
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