re: ELI5: Why is Aaron Rodgers considered a better QB than Brees?

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5. Montana

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If you had one game to win.

Hard pressed to not pick him.

Go watch his duel with John Elway on MNF when he was an old man (Chiefs vs. Broncos 1994,). ..They called his exploits "Montana Magic" for a reason.

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Rodgers has won in spite of coaching.

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Rodgers can't be coached

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quote:OP in absolute shambles rn
No I'm not

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That’s what everyone in shambles says.

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Brees’ best pass catchers were one all-pro WR, a converted 6th round TE and another TE who did nothing elsewhere.

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Rodgers never had a Colston, Michael Thomas, or Jimmy Graham

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I'll put it to ya like this, if Rodgers would have played all of those years under Payton instead of Brees, who do you think has the better resume?

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Honestly I don’t know. Do I think Rodgers had more arm talent than Brees. Yes. Do I think Rodgers especially peak rodgers was always willing to play within a system and take the available throws to keep drives going…not always. To me, the guy has always had a tendency to play hero ball and rely on his immense talent a bit too much. Instead of taking the easy throw he’d instead go for the 15 yard out.

So while more talented I can’t say that he would’ve had significantly more championship success because Brees and his accuracy likely fit Payton’s system more. It’s also not like Brees was ever really the issue on the teams that fell short.

Rodgers has also been given a semi pass for “not having guys he trusts” outside of Davante and Jordy Nelson for much of his career. I think Brees did a much better job of bringing the Lance Moore’s, Dave Thomas’ and Devery’s of the world into the fold.

My litmus test.... If I owned a team and it was like pick sandlot teams...and my two choices were Rodgers or Brees...my pick is Rodgers ( I'm not heartbroken at getting Brees)

From an outsider looking in who doesn't religiously watch a lot of pro football when I think of Brees I think of open receivers in the seam or streaking up the sideline and those perfectly placed long balls and all those underneath routes that set those up.

When I think Rodgers I think of all those back shoulder and corner routes thrown to what looked like covered receivers yet the ball is placed right where it needs to be for the receiver to catch it and you are left wondering "how did he do that"

One feels like a perfect blend of decision making and ball placement in a scheme that suited his talents.

The other feels like a generational arm talent who could make any passing window from any throwing platform (pocket, running lefft or right). That's sort of my personla take between the two.

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How many MVPs did Brees win?

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This is always such a poor argument. If there was ever a guy that got absolutely shafted by the seemingly annual fluctuating MVP criteria it was Brees. 2006 Ladanian Thomlinson puts up unreal raw stats to get it over Brees who led a 2-14 team to a record of 10-6 and NFC title birth. 2009 (the biggest screw job) better than Manning in essentially every statistical category and more efficient. 2011 better than Rodgers in the raw numbers but they decide they want ultra efficient that year. The award is a joke.

Actually he did have Graham, who was better with Brees which is why you don’t remember him playing with Rogers. He also had Devonte Adams, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson and this new kid in NY. The next best WR who played with Brees was Brandin Cooks.