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Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:18 pm to St Augustine
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If you gave me the choice of any of the three with the same supporting cast I'd take Rivers.
I agree, but that wasn't the question. You could maybe make that arguement with Rivers and Eli because Eli has really only had a couple seasons of really good play, but when you combine the three Superbowl appearances, 2 wins, the AFC Championship appearences, and the elite play for most of his career you have to put Ben above Rivers no doubt
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:21 pm to Jake88
quote:he's easily the best QB of the 3
Rivers doesn't belong in the question
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:22 pm to RedRifle
Big Ben easy, second best qb in NFL history, behind Terry Bradshaw of course
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:31 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:idk about easily. But yes that poster is right, Rivers does not belong in this conversation. And the simple question is would he trade his career for either of the other two? and the honest question is yes.
he's easily the best QB of the 3
Now, overall Rivers has been the better QB. Though Manning has performed well in the playoffs....better than Rivers.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:12 pm to RedRifle
This trio is a good litmus test to weed out those that know little about football imo.
Anyone who ranks Eli as a better QB than either Rivers or Big Ben is someone you can immediately disregard in any NFL conversations.
Anyone who ranks Eli as a better QB than either Rivers or Big Ben is someone you can immediately disregard in any NFL conversations.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:13 pm to castorinho
quote:That's not a good way to do it imo.
And the simple question is would he trade his career for either of the other two? and the honest question is yes.
Robert Horry has stated that he'd trade his career in for Charles Barkley's.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:31 pm to RedRifle
Career:
Roethlisberger->Manning->Rivers
Player:
Rivers->Roethlisberger->Manning
I want to put big ben as #1, but his front office surrounded him and kept the talent they acquired which means he was slightly more consistent and on better teams.
Rivers' front office chose to let his talent go and he was only above average with useless players. Remember, this was a guy who was 3 straight 101-105 rating seasons when he had actual talent. He still has a slight edge on passer rating with that useless talent too.
Roethlisberger->Manning->Rivers
Player:
Rivers->Roethlisberger->Manning
I want to put big ben as #1, but his front office surrounded him and kept the talent they acquired which means he was slightly more consistent and on better teams.
Rivers' front office chose to let his talent go and he was only above average with useless players. Remember, this was a guy who was 3 straight 101-105 rating seasons when he had actual talent. He still has a slight edge on passer rating with that useless talent too.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:01 pm to HarbaughsCameraMan
quote:
Yeah, it means you were on a really good team.
Go look at the 06 Chargers. It's a myth that Rivers never had a good supporting cast.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:10 pm to St Augustine
Stats:
Rivers
Ben
Eli
I’d have this same order on talent as well.
But, Ben and Eli will make the HoF and both be remembered more
Rivers
Ben
Eli
I’d have this same order on talent as well.
But, Ben and Eli will make the HoF and both be remembered more
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:20 pm to RedRifle
Big Ben and Rivers are interchangable, Eli is a step below them imo.
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