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Dream Heavyweight Boxing Matches

Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
271 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:44 pm
The Foreman thread inspired this.

What dream bout would you like to see?

Dempsey vs. Marciano (similar weight and absolute brawlers)

Louis vs. Tyson (finally an end to the Tyson hype)

Foreman vs. Liston (again, similar size and sluggers)

What bout would be your dream matchup?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22727 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:49 pm to
Fury vs Ali.

The two best-moving heavyweights of all time. How would Ali get around the reach and mental toughness/craziness of Fury.

How would Fury get around the ring intelligence and chin of Ali.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10408 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 4:52 pm to
Would have loved to see Prime Tyson against Prime Holyfield. I think after prison Mike was a different boxer.

Honestly Tyson vs Foreman would have been good as well.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68063 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:14 pm to
Prime Holyfield wins.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Would have loved to see Prime Tyson against Prime Holyfield. I think after prison Mike was a different boxer.



This is a popular choice, but I don't know what changes. I guess people like to think that Tyson has a better chance of getting Holyfield out of there via knockout but Holyfield was never knocked out in his career, and he faced prime Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. TKO'd in the 8th by Bowe but Tyson tended to fade past the 7th with only one TKO past that point (Ribalta), and no KOs.

Holyfield was just a bad matchup for him. Lot of boxers backed up on Tyson which fed right into his gameplan. Holyfield smothered him. Holyfield was not the type of fighter to ever get bullied by anyone, which Tyson relied on his opponent throwing their gameplan out of the window once they got in trouble. Holyfield could take a hit and maintain his composure.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68063 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:18 pm to
Ali vs Marciano

Frazier vs Tyson



Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:23 pm to
Marciano against a young Cassius Clay in the early 60’s.

Could’ve gone either way.

Prime Ali vs Prime Joe Louis (leaning prime Louis)

Prime Tyson against Prime Foreman (leaning prime Foreman)

Prime Dempsey vs Prime Marciano (could go either way)
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2158 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:38 pm to
I’ve heard of fury but is he that good that the idea of him fighting prime Ali would even be in question?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:44 pm to
Prime Frazier vs prime Tyson would have been epic.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35461 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Prime Tyson against Prime Foreman (leaning prime Foreman)

quote:


“Tyson is not in my Top five world Champs. He could make my top ten,” pointed out Foreman.

“For me, they (heavyweights like Tyson) were real fast (small with muscles). But they were no danger to me.” (like Frazier)

One fight Foreman would like to have witnessed is Tyson vs. Joe Frazier.




GEORGE FOREMAN’s TOP SIX HEAVYWEIGHTS

1 Joe Louis

2 Rocky Marciano

3 John L. Sullivan

4 Muhammad Ali

5 Lennox Lewis

6 Evander Holyfield
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I’ve heard of fury but is he that good that the idea of him fighting prime Ali would even be in question?

No
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22727 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I’ve heard of fury but is he that good that the idea of him fighting prime Ali would even be in question?


Fury has Physical assets that no other HW in history possess.

He has also only fought recent heavyweights like Wilder, who moves like cold syrup.

A guy like Ali or Joe Louis would either expose the modern HWs as shams or show they should be shown the proper respect.

Dempsey vs Tyson would also be a Dream match. Both used the same style and had the same tenacity.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35461 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Dempsey vs Tyson would also be a Dream match. Both used the same style and had the same tenacity.


Tyson fricking loved and copied Dempsey. Cus would show him old films.

Said Dempsey fought like the opponent stole his lunch money and being smaller like Tyson would burrow in and rain upppercuts.

Dempsey beat a giant for the time in Jess Willard. Tyson struggled with reach and big guys...which is why Foreman is not bothered by him...just like he wasn't by Frazier.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3381 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Louis vs. Tyson (finally an end to the Tyson hype)


What hype???… no real boxing fan(people who watch more than the big fights) considers Tyson a great heavyweight…declared “no mas” against Golota(a tomato can)… lost against every premier fighter he ever faced.. he more of a culture icon than a great boxer
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 7:06 pm
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
271 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:17 pm to
I am talking about the hype on this board and the general public.

I have seen numerous threads on this board with guys talking about Tyson like he was unbeatable, it was just his out of the ring problems that doomed him.

It is insane how many people think Tyson was one of, if not the greatest heavyweight ever.

He did manage to beat Michael Spinks, so there is that.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3381 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

He did manage to beat Michael Spinks


And that’s the pinnacle to his career… Spinks was 31-0… the big “but” to that is Spinks had already retired for all intensive purposes plus it was only hus 2nd fight in the heavyweight division I think… Spinks earn 13.5 million dollars got knocked out in 83 seconds and never fought again… announced his retirement at the press conference after the fight… so that’s the caveat to Tyson’s biggest win in his career
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3381 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:35 pm to
Lennox Lewis vs Forman in their prime would be a hell of a fight…
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35461 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Spinks had already retired for all intensive purposes


‘all intents and purposes’, meaning ‘in every practical sense’

Otherwise, Spinks should've given more effort in the Tyson fight.

Or maybe he did retire that night, intensively...under 90 seconds.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70920 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:47 pm to
Ali vs Tyson
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139838 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:53 pm to
Prime Holmes vs Tyson

I think Holmes just jabs him to submission and frustration


Lewis vs Holmes

Would be a heavier hitting version of the Rumble in the Jungle

Ali vs Louis

Fury vs Ali

Lewis vs Fury
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